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wow some interesting replies to my last blog

Tuesday, February 16, 2010

thank you all for your replies to my food addict blog...
I talked with 2 friends from work and they also agreed that they were food addicts...on says he has it under control most times, he has lost over 100 pounds and has keep it off for about 3 years.....but says if he doesn't watch each and every day he starts to gain...He says he did go to OA and did try the 12 step program.....

So now I'm wondering what is the difference between being an Emotional eater, a compulsive eater and a person who is a food addict......or is it all the same thing but we try and disguise it by other names......

I also talked with a few people who don't have weight issue and weird thing is they say they eat when upset, or stressed , lonely, board......so what are they??
One said we all use food as comfort..it started at birth, baby cries they give bottle.....

so now I'm not feeling like some sort of addicted food aholic....

like some some said am I cured as now I still want to eat junk food but have a new lifestyle that makes me think before I eat, and I eat healthy 99% of the time.....

seem the more questions I get answered the more questions there are.....maybe I just think to much......maybe I'm hoping for some easy answer or even hard answer, but I just want an answer.....then it hits me if this was so easy we would not have such a huge portion of our society over weight... and even when we do manage to loose the weight 95% gain it all back ....most with a few extra pounds just to be sure......

guess the bottom line no one really knows why........

but if you do or have some ideas please let me know.

Has anyone gone to OA and if so did it help?

Have a healthy Wednesday



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  • TRECECOOKS
    I think that a person can be a food addict, that they can have the same kind of addictive thinking any other addict might have. Just because we eat for emotional reasons doesn't make us a food addict however. Like you, I have trouble relating to people who consume huge amounts of food, like a whole cake, etc.
    I have followed Ruby, and I think that part of her is just not totally ready to let go of the food completely, because it is such an important part of who she is. I can relate to that, because in my life, I have never found anything to be as good a "friend". Even though that "friend" now is destroying me. When I can state my needs, and get them met, and be true to myself, then I do not need to eat excessive amounts.
    Just my two cents' worth.
    3560 days ago
  • SMILINDI
    Kitt this is so very interesting. After seeing the title of this blog, I had to go back to read yesterdays. Grab a pencil and paper and do this little exercise with me. Draw a circle full and round(basket ball shaped). Now next to that draw the same shape flattened a little going east and west. Step three is drawing it yet again more tear drop shaped(east and west). Last make a perfect FLAT oval(sideways meaning east and west). My doctor did this for me a few years ago, he said each circle that became more and more flat was the same fat cell that would deflate, but never go away. This is what our fat cells do as we lose weight, they flatten out, but remain the same in number. They are happy when basketball shaped, and as they go down down down, they become more and more sad, as we are feeling better, looking better and guarenteeing that we'll never be THAT SIZE AGAIN! Those fat cells are just waiting to be aired back up like a flat tire on our vehicles. It's a vicious cycle. He could have explained that to me verbally and I'd have said "okay. Okay. yeah. hummmm." yet when he drew the pictures it was a WOWSER MOMENT!

    I'd have to say I am a binger. Going from nearly anorexic behavior, to having what I feel is complete control allowing myself a little food every couple of hours, to suddenly eating the paint off the walls. It takes a trigger food to set me off though. Thank heavens I know what my triggers are....and am in control of them during the day hours. There are times though that my sleep walking gets me in so much trouble! Never a clue that I was even up, just evidence, and this has been a lifelong thing. If I find serious evidence then here comes the colon clenze(exact spelling of what I use). Shame on me! This too has been a 25+ year pattern. What does that make me??? Now you have me wondering about myself. All be darned if I ask my doctor about it though!!!! Sure as heck dont need anything diagnosised that may hurt me health insurance wise!!!! eeeekkkkkk!!!

    Two outstanding blogs Dear You!!!
    Much Love Always,
    ~Di~ emoticon
    3564 days ago
  • SOCKITTOME
    Sorry for the long post...just thought of one more thing. Sometimes we have a tendency to turn molehills into mountains. In some ways, that's how I felt about OA. I know I eat for emotional reasons, and I don't feel the need to do in-depth psychoanalysis, moral inventories, and making amends to change my behavior. For me it seems like overkill, but some people do find it extremely helpful. One size does not fit all.

    Okay. I think I'm done. LOL

    3564 days ago
  • SOCKITTOME
    Kitt, I tried OA for a while a couple of times -- first in the 80s (I think it was), and the second time in conjunction with the protein diet thing I did with a bariatric doctor in 2001-2002. I recognized that I was eating for emotional reasons, and in some ways I could relate to using food the same way alcoholics use booze or drug addicts use drugs. At the same time, I saw a difference, which I think they recognize -- we don't need booze or drugs to live, but we do need food. While the other addicts can strive for 100% abstinence of booze and drugs, we cannot live without food. The trick was to work toward abstinence of problem foods. I chose to use sugar as my "drug," though it was more complicated than that. OA follows the same 12 Step program that AA does, and even uses the Big Book at their meetings, along with their OA-specific book.

    While parts of it were helpful and I met some really nice people, in the end I decided OA wasn't for me. It was too complex and I had trouble identifying with the whole addict thing. Their first step is admitting "that we were powerless over food and that our lives had become unmanageable." Perhaps it's my perception now, but I don't believe we are powerless over food. We might think we are, but we're not. It's a choice and the choice is ours. Other steps have to do with taking a moral inventory, and making amends to those we have harmed if possible. That's a good exercise, but for me personally I'm not interested in dredging up things that I have moved beyond. I've dealt with things in my own way and don't feel a need to dig it all up again so I can hunt down and apologize to every person I might have slighted. Some people might find this useful in moving forward. For me personally, I don't find it helpful.

    Here are the Twelve Steps of Overeaters Anonymous:
    1. We admitted we were powerless over food — that our lives had become unmanageable.
    2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
    3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
    4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
    5. Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
    6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
    7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
    8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed and became willing to make amends to them all.
    9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
    10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong, promptly admitted it.
    11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
    12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these Steps, we tried to carry this message to compulsive overeaters and to practice these principles in all our affairs.

    I guess it's something you need to explore for yourself and see if it speaks to you. Many people have found it very useful, and I say good for them! Each of us has to find and use the tools that work for us. They have various books and workbooks to help you work through the steps, and there are OA meetings all over the country (similar to AA). Like the forums here, some groups are great and some aren't -- different strokes for different folks. There might even be some OA-oriented forums here if you want to ask them about the program and how/if they find it helpful.

    3564 days ago
  • WVROSE1
    emoticon I want to know the answers to these questions too! I don't understand it either. emoticon I've been asking some of these questions for years!!!!
    3564 days ago
  • RAINBOWMF
    Keep blogging Kitt, it helps me think.

    Hugs Mary
    3564 days ago
  • LAINIESNEWLIFE
    I think it's great that you have so many questions, Kitt. I think that is what is keeping you on your toes and on the right track. I'm sorry I don't have any answers to your questions. I'm still searching myself.

    Take care!

    Hugs,

    Lainie
    3564 days ago
  • SUPREME5
    YOU ARE RIGHT JUST TO KEEP ON TOP OF IT IS GOOD emoticon
    3564 days ago
  • AGGIE56
    Your right about more answers creates more questions. We just have to keep doing our best and be aware of our weaknesses. Everyday is the first day of our new healthy lifestyle. emoticon emoticon
    3564 days ago
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