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3/29/17 1:44 A

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It is not strange at all in this culture for a lot of the population to rarely feel real hunger. Most of it is just a conditioned response of pairing food with hundreds of cues and cultural acceptance. Food is naturally reinforcing. In early human development, it was a huge advantage to love food AND to have thrifty genes. That's why naturally thin people are in the minority everywhere culture or scarcity doesn't limit access to food. More of those with fast metabolisms died before they had children!

We have to create our own scarcity, but it doesn't have to be excessively painful. Just keep adjusting downwards as it gets easier. You may just learn to love hunger as well as food...

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*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
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3/8/17 5:41 A

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Hi everyone! I hope this thread is still alive. I'm on day 3 of the no s diet and it seems to be going well. It sounds strange but not snacking and actually feeling hungry is a new thing for me which I am kind of enjoying. When i feel hungry then I know for sure that my body is ready for my next meal whereas before I never ever felt truly hungry for food - i just ate because i love food.

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12/12/16 7:26 P

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That is likely mostly water. It takes more water to process carbs. Personally, that is worth it to me. I am mostly interested in fat loss. Water weight fluctuates by pounds over short periods of time. It's rare for a body to fluctuate its fat content by more than an ounce or two in a day.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
ndividual.asp?gid=1323


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12/12/16 10:44 A

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Yes, I find when I am careful not eat bread or too many carbs, the weight comes off anyway. emoticon

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12/12/16 7:36 A

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Yes, for you, multiple-day planning is crucial. Weight loss may need to take a backseat for a bit, possibly, though not necessarily. Heal yourself first!

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
ndividual.asp?gid=1323


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12/11/16 11:37 P

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Yes, I do hear you with eating some heavy meals for awhile since my diet is so limited. I discovered that I was doing that while I was keeping my highly allergenic out of my diet. I just have to make sure I rotate the foods that I am not sensitive to or moderately allergic to. I am going to write a weekly meal plan so that I won't have to try to remember which foods I ate when. It is a process that will make a priority to do for the benefit of feeling well and energetic.

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There must be foods you can have. I'd be sure to include the ones I liked the most very often while I developed the meal habit, even if it meant some heavy meals for awhile. It's always easier to cut more later.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
ndividual.asp?gid=1323


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12/11/16 10:52 P

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Thank you for helping me to look at craving and eating my highly allergic foods as something that I refuse to partake. I will feel better if I stay away from them, and look at them at something will make me feel sick in the long run due to having delayed allergic reactions to food. These foods are just not going to be a part of me in anyway, and I can substitute other things, like listening to relaxing music on my drive home from work, and not buying or having any of these foods in my house to tempt me. Later, as my gut heals from not eating these things and putting the right foods and supplements in my body, I will be able to rotate them in moderation in my diet.

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Suz, so sorry for the late welcome. I've been No Sing for nearly 7 years. I lost in spurts and have had blips of small relapse at times, but No S has remained the core of my eating. I have seen it all on the original site. There is no guarantee about weight loss amounts and speed. No matter what people say, it is totally individual. I will never achieve the weight loss some have. Some will never achieve the weight loss I have. But a common theme is the sense of sanity people get after becoming more compliant with the routine.

Sowandreap, I hope you didn't mean you limited yourself to the weekday requirements for Thanksgiving! Though it is perfectly possible to eat plenty of delicious holiday foods at meals only.

Pam, illness is the one reason to limit certain foods and possibly amounts of food in general. You can put or NOT put anything on your plate. I support anyone with health issues to be very strict with themselves over this, just as Reinhard recommends being strict with the habits as a firm goal. (I do not support people adopting the diet limitations of the ill just to lose weight.)

You are welcome to come share on the How are you doing?" thread or even start one specifically for people who have doctor's orders to limit or eliminate certain foods.

I also gently suggest that you cultivate an image of yourself as someone who just does not eat the problem foods. People who truly believe eating meat is either bad for them or cruel don't experience a lot of struggle over it. They don't crave it. If they do, the conviction is the issue, not the elimination. People committed to eating kosher foods have no cravings for them even though they are forbidden. They firmly accept the reasons for not eating those foods and value the image of themselves as someone who does not eat them. I realize this gets dangerously close to the concept of eating being a moral choice, which can wreak havoc if there are slips, but it's just to show that when the conviction is there that this is TRULY in a person's best interest, there's more peace. If there is struggle, it's that concept to work on outside of the habit. So it might be calmly and lovingly developing the idea that "This urge for the food is a false hunger that does not signal any real need for this food. I am not a person who stimulates X (here insert the symptoms of an allergic reaction or illness) and reinforces the habit even more by eating this foods. I can safely ignore the urge. My life is so much better without feeling or worrying about their effects on my present health problem. There are many other foods I can and do enjoy." Then think about an upcoming meal at which you WILL have some of those foods and follow that with diverting to a productive or pleasurable activity. Acknowledging the urge, recognizing its lack of real merit, and diverting to a new activity has been shown to change the brain patterns of those with OCD and is used with addictions as well.

It's also good to somehow track success without dwelling too much on failure. Everyday Systems has a simple calendar feature. Spark has a way to track other goals. Having a pleasant way to very simply record success is a good way to reinforce a desired habit.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
ndividual.asp?gid=1323


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12/10/16 11:25 P

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I am looking for a team that will give me support as I have some food allergies, and because I need to stay away from certain foods right now, causes me to crave it. Consequently, I give in at times and eat too much. I like the concept of eating no sweets, except during the weekend, because I have a tendency to reward myself after work by going to the store and getting something like a sweet protein drink, which sets me up for wanting more sweets.

I believe that this group can help motivate me to eat within the right limits, and limit sweets and snacks. I am looking forward to making good progress here. emoticon emoticon

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11/24/16 7:57 A

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Call me crazy but I'm going to start the No S Plan on Thanksgiving Day no less. If I can make it thru today, that will be half the battle. Happy Thanksgiving Everyone. Mary

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10/13/16 11:38 P

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Welcome to our friendly team Suzanne I'm new to it also as I have been a member for 13 days and my book only arrived the other day. This is an awesome team everyone I'm finding so far is awesome.

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This is a great concept. I am looking forward to incorporating this in my quest to live a healthier lifestyle. I am 62, extremely overweight, and in need of a healthy makeover. I am looking forward to making this journey with you. Just received the No. S book this afternoon. Bare with me, I will be a work in progress, until I have finished the book and set up my calendar. Suzanne from New Jersey.




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