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Wow T - you're doing great!

Be sure to mix up your schedule - the body gets accustomed to OMAD and then functions at a lower metabolic level to compensate. Not that you can't or shouldn't do it - but you should mix it up with other types of keto/fasting to keep your body guessing. If you like Dr. Fung and Megan Ramos - she has written a great blog on OMAD. thefastingmethod.com/omad-sh
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emoticon Hi my name is Teresa or T emoticon

Fasting: I started with 16:8 fast, then went to 20:4, now I eat, OMAD (One Meal A Day). EF 2 or 3 days with maximum 72 hours.

Keto ~ I started with eating under 200 grams carbs a day, then under 100, then under 50, now I strive to eat low carb but more importantly, the carbs are not from processed food but from non-starchy vegetables. Dr. Fung recommends 40 grams or less of protein for weight loss so I strive for that. As well as so many wonderful healthy fats.

Starting weight 310, goal 140 than decide - maybe 130 emoticon

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Hi Pam - I love TRE!! I try and juggle the times/hours around and do some EF too. So far 3 days is the longest I've gone. With the health benefits, I'd like to try a 5 - 7 day once this year and maybe 3-4 day once a quarter. The first quarter is moving along, so I'm working on it!

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Hi. I've had a lot of success with Time Restricted Eating. The sweet spot for me seems to be living a 17:7 routine. I've done one 24 hour fast recently and I'm experimenting with getting some very low carb days in before and after longer fasts. So this looked like a place to hang out for that.

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Welcome Autumn and Curly. I have been a yo-yo many times. Hopefully IF and LC will be the answer we need.

Good luck in your journey to better health.

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Hello! I am happy to join this team. I have been exploring LCIF for awhile and want to get serious about it. Confession: I am the queen of the yo-yo. I feel like I've been down the weight loss road so many times I've lost count. I need to do this and I need to stay committed. So, this is me officially checking in and letting you know that I am now actively searching for a body I recognize and feel good in! Thanks in advance for the support and I look forward to sharing my support and my journey with all of you.

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Not really new to the team, but since it has been so long since I was active here - I will re-introduce myself. I was very actively low carbing for many years - 2002 thru 2011 and continue to try going LC. I also use IF from time to time. My DH retired in 2011 and he is making meals for me. I love him and appreciate what he does, but it's not really low carb. On top of that I was dx'd with gluten intolerance in 2006 and I know I have some issues with corn....so he has been really mindful of those items. But he does lean a little too heavily toward potatoes (which I love), rice and quinoa.

I am attempting to re-commit to LC and fasting. I think I can talk him into keto - we have tried that before. I married him because we really are partners in everything, so I want to work with him on this. I am currently heavier than I have been and I need to get into shape. I am still working, still doing cancer research by reviewing patient data which means I spend a lot of time at a computer. My office moved a year ago so now I take 2 buses to get here and have even less time for any kind of exercise as my commute is 2.5 hours round trip.

I recognize KDGIRL and KOSHIE from years past. Glad to see some of the old gang still here. Holiday treats abound and people keeping bringing gluten free treats 'just for me' so I feel obligated to have some. Aaargh!! I can't wait for January!

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Welcome Mary Ann!! This is an interesting time to start IF - but when better? Good luck with your journey. Let us know if you need any support or information.

I think LCHF/IF is the best way to support your health, and you are correct, IF/LC is great for mental health as well.

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Good morning. Recently started IF and been LC for a while. It seems to be the only way I can lose weight. I'm also very excited that it is good for your brain as dementia is effecting my mother's side of the family.

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Hi Frances and welcome!! I hope you enjoy IF - it has amazing benefits. What sort of eating do you do during your window? The best part about IF is that you can change it up to suit your life. I rarely eat breakfast, and sometimes not lunch either. Make sure you get enough quality food when you do eat so you don't slow your metabolism down.

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Hey y'all! I am Frances from Alabama. I started IF on Tuesday after hearing a lot about it at work. Began with 14:10 and now at 16:8 but trying to find a good fit for me. I am also eating right as much as I can but already feel better and more in control. Glad there is a support group on SPARK!

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Hi Maureen and Jamie!! Welcome, and I hope you're both doing well.

I hope you are enjoying the freedom from eating all the time, and getting some benefits (better sleep, losing weight/inches) as well.

Any questions? Ask away!!

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Hi, My name is Jamie and I have been following a Keto lifestyle for 2 weeks now and already loving how it has made me feel. I have been doing IF of a minimum 16:8 for the 2 weeks. I have also done a couple 20:4. Either way I love just the way I feel on this WOE. Can't wait to see what else it will bring me :)

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My name is Maureen and I’ve been on one week of 16:8 fasting. I am doing it for inflammation and to get rid of the toxins in my body, and body fat. I’m really new at this fasting, I’ve heard many good things and bad things about it. Looking forward to being a member of this team to learn and hear others results emoticon

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Good for you Jamie - and welcome!! What kind of IF are you doing?

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Hi Everyone. Long time Sparker here getting back in the groove. Turned 40 and started IF in March. Hoping to get healthier and live longer!!! I look forward to learning from you all

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Hi Ladyhawkes - welcome to the team!!

IF is always doable. Not always easy - but doable!!

I am doing 3 22 hour fasts this week. From dinner to dinner. Still eating one meal those days.

Next week I plan on doing one half day (no B/L) and one full day (no B/L/D) and that's it. Change it up every week.

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EMILY....I totally understand about the struggle to lose weight for surgery. I had to lose 50 pound before they could do hip replacement on me and I was a water aerobics instructor...IF and Keto is the way to go, 16 lbs is awesome...you got this!

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I am a long time sparker in and out for several years due to family and personal health issues....What I learned DON'T QUIT SPARKING....life is ALWAYS going to hand you challenges. Recovering WELL from hip surgery last year and now dealing with cancer treatments for my husband, while it seemed easy in the beginning to ignore my own health being a caretaker...learning far more important to stay on track healthwise. SO...read the cruise control book and am trying that, had success with Keto in losing 50 lbs for hip surgery but need to lose 100 to get to a good healthy weight for me...I am 58 so post menopausal....got my IF schedule to 1 p.m. - 9 p.m. seems to work best for me...the bulletproof coffee keeps my hunger free until 1 and the fatbombs after 9 if I just have a craving I can't kick. Sugarfree gum too....Looking forward to getting to know you all.


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Progress is still progress - keep it up!!

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Hi, Geri! I appreciate the prayers!

I did not lose 30 pounds as the doctor wanted, BUT I lost 16.6 and dropped my body fat percentage by a little less than 2% in the 30 days. My doctor was beyond pleased! Of course, I am, too!

I do not plan to ever eat like I used to. This weekend I decided that maybe just a little white wine wouldn't hurt. Ummmm, I will not be having white wine for a long time! I had a really hard tine controlling my hunger the following day (yesterday). I plan to fast all day today.

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Your smile is so infectious Bev Anne - I hope I look happy like you when I get there!!

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I don't feel old either but sometimes my body does. There are things I could do when I weighed a lot more than I do now that I can't do anymore so I guess that is age. But mentally I feel as young as I ever did (even though I have lived for 3/4 of a century now).

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Hi Geri - I was wondering the same thing about Emily!! Old is someone way older than me, never me!! The older I get the younger those ages sound! I remember when I realized I would be 42 in 2000 - that seemed so old to me!

Hope you're enjoying your IF/LC journey. Glad you're here.

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Hi Emily, just read your post and want you to know I'm praying for you! How did you make out at your appt.? I'm a retired "old lady" (73). I have had both hips and both knees replaced and I am moving around very well. I have been doing LCHF for over a year and lost 20 lbs but now I'm adding the IF. It isn't that bad. If I don't eat in the morning I don't get ravenous. Unfortunatly for the new life style I am at a monastery this week and most of what we have to eat is carbs... but since I don't eat from 6:30 pm until 12:30 pm. I might be able to maintain...
Hope you are doing well.
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Hi Emily - it's totally possible!! And I hope you are loving the food.

I started a year ago - I am down 32 pounds +/- and have about 10 pounds to go. I'm not SUPER strict (I love my wine) but pretty much follow low carb/keto to the tee.

I live in SA but I have a sister-in-law in Bellaire!!

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My name is Emily, and I'm new to fasting. I've done low carb high fat before but not for a long time. I'm 56, a retired teacher, married 21 years, 1 DD who is finishing up her junior year of high school. We live in a suburb of Houston, Texas.

I have been fighting this battle pretty much my whole life with limited success. Most of my adult life I weighed around 275-300. My best progress came in 2010-2013 when I lost 100 pounds using Nutrisystem. That's my lowest weight in my profile picture. Of course, regain happened and I'm currently fighting that and really want to get to a healthy weight for me. In January of this year I weighed in at 240 and lost 10 pounds pretty quickly counting calories and exercising. Then I stayed around that weight until a few weeks ago when I went to see a new doctor about my problematic left knee. I had been told I would eventually need a knee replacement but it could be put off. This new doctor disagreed and showed me why. My left knee bows inward at a 20 degree angle and has no cartilage at all. Continued wear will likely impact the nerve that provides sensation and movement to my left foot. I enjoy moving and feeling my foot! He said he would like me to lose 30 pounds to bring me to a BMI associated with lower risks of complications. He gave me 30 days to do this and and when I told him that was impossible he started talking about the book "The Obesity Code" and intermittent fasting. I'd heard of both but had never been interested in IF. BUT, I dove in and have lost 12 pounds since I started IF combined with low carb high fat eating on 3/20. I see him again 4/23 and I really hope to be as close to that 30 pounds as I can get.

I look at that appointment as something like divine intervention. I'd heard of IF before but thought it was crazy and I just knew it was something I could never do. Without the possibility of increased risks after surgery and the possibility of permanent damage to my nerves if I didn't have the surgery quickly I would have never done what I'm doing now. I'm so thankful for the doctor who told me this would work and grateful that my mind was open it it.

I'm glad to be here and I look forward to getting to know you all!


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Thanks; knowing that I quit listening to Dr. Berg.

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Good to know! I will take that info to heart and steer clear--but look into at least one you mentioned.

I am excited as I weighed and today am down 1.5 from yesterday! And 2# since I started on the weekend. I must be in keto--as I feel SO full this morning, and can only drink one cup of coffee.

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Dr. Berg is not my favorite keto guy. He's a chiropractor for one thing, not an MD, and he's selling things. I'm not saying he doesn't know what he's talking about, but he advocates eating 6-8 cups of veggies a day. That's crazy that just because they are veggies the carbs don't count.

Balance his advice with advice from Dr. Ivor Cummins, Dr. Jeffrey Gerber (they have a book out Eat Rich, Live Long) and Dr. Jason Fung.

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Just finished watching several videos by Dr. Eric Berg on the subject of keto and insulin resistance. He said regarding vegetables, he does not factor them into the daily allotment of carbs; says they are trace, and are needful in the diet. (Above the ground vegetables that is).
He also says he normally eats only two meals a day; on occasion three but ONLY if he is hungry in the morning. I was also happy to hear rather than eating a regular meal at dinner time--when he says he is not really hungry; he has a green drink; consisting of dark leafy greens, some kale, a few carrots is fine …. and says a few berries is alright … But NO juice at all, bc of the high sugar content. I felt like the cloud over my head was lifted and I am getting the big picture now. He has lots of great videos if interested ……. Dr. Eric Berg.

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There are c arbs in salad stuff like you're mentioning - but they are the good kind. If you go over on carbs, I wouldn't worry too much if it's real food.

Here is an article about fiber and keto though that I found really interesting...

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Yesterday I watched a video from the Diet Doctor … and he said to have lots of veggies AS LONG as they are above the ground veggies vs those grown below …(like tubers and potatoes are loaded with starch) … So I have my daily green salad with various chopped veggies, like mushrooms, carrots---less than half a carrot …. olives, and SF seeds. Am I wrong, or are there few … carbs in those? … (I know I would be plugged up if it were not for those) .. No other fiber in my diet than that salad. emoticon

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So true Bev Anne - we can't control everything when we go out, but we just do the best we can.

I had carbs last Thursday - it took me 4 days to get back to where I wanted to be. So make the best choice you can each and every day!!

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The number of carbs I have varies but it all comes from real food -- mostly veggies. I have been doing keto eating for a long time now and I am in ketosis every time I check so I assume I am well fat adapted and that is probably why I can get away with eating a few more carbs as long as they come from natural food that is minimally processed.

When I first tried lowcarb back in the 70s I wasn't able to get into ketosis and soon gave up but now I eat for health -- to lower my blood sugar and after eating this way for some time I seem to be able to stay in ketosis nearly all of the time. I think the only time I knock myself out of ketosis is when I eat in a restaurant and have foods with unknown sauces on them and I am able to get back into ketosis within a day or two.

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Just before I started, my husband kept cautioning me about "suddenly taking it to the extreme." .. He is a believer of gradually going into something--where I tend to be the direct opposite. Last night I read what one Doctor had to say … if having the keto flu symptoms---eat a few carbs to get thru it--or ride it out. I could not go one more night with insomnia--so I ate a few. Of course, when I weighed this morning, the scales were only a couple oz. lighter …. (and exercised yesterday too) ……. I must say I am 'so tired" of the scale staying the same, that I will dive in … My main goal is weight loss and less inflammatory pain in my neck. … I do know thought the author of the book that got me started … IBS Lower Starch diet … said there are many levels .. and some start gradually and eliminate a lot of the obvious high starch foods. (Like I said, I will prolly go gung ho.

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2B you may not be wanting to go whole keto. Bev Anne does a higher carb keto (Ketotarian) way of eating that includes a lot more veggies. I think she's at about 50 or so carbs (Bev Anne?) and doing great.

Keto is not everyone's goal. Lower carbs, better real food, that can be everyone's goal for healthier living.

And IF is good for people who eat low carb or don't eat low carb. Dr. Fung who lives in Toronto says there are many people living on a low income who don't have control over what food is purchased in their house. They can still IF and have great results. There is no one size fits all.



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Ok--thank you; I will make note of it

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Your husband might be interested in the book "The Diabetes Code" by Dr. Jason Fung.

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Thank you and I just took a peek at Diet Doctors this morning. (Watched a video--think he was a Doctor. As for the drink ……… it was emoticon more than awful!!! I was nauseated til I finally ate lunch. … And that is wonderful GRINGUITA about your meds; I will have to tell my husband, who is type II diabetic.

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There are many ways to do keto and you just have to find what works for you. At the beginning you will probably want to keep your carb count as low as possible and that is definitely under 20. But when you become fat adapted you can add more veggies as long as you stay in ketosis and find your own personal sweet spot.

I have gone from being a type II diabetic on several meds including 2 kinds of insulin (several shots a day) to currently being on no meds at all. My A1c isn't quite where I want it yet but it's getting there.

It's a great way to eat and the food is delicious. There are lots of resources and recipes on DietDoctor.com.

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Both celery and kale are really low in carbs!! How did it taste?

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I did wonder about that green drink; as to carbs. I have not yet blended so I removed ost all that you mentioned! I want to do this right and not compromise. emoticon … Drinking a small glass now, only made with Kale and celery. (Is celery ok?) … It is def. different--but I am determined! emoticon

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You might want to calculate the carbs in your green drink, especially with carrot and pineapple. Or berries. It sounds super healthy, but not keto. Could be low carb however. When you blend, you lower the fiber, so that also offsets the carb count.

Just something to consider.

Nutritional Yeast:

Per 1/4 cup (which is a lot - I usually sprinkle a tablespoon on stuff that I use it on)


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Total Fat 0.5g

Total Carbohydrate 5g

Dietary Fiber 3g

Sugars 0g

Protein 8g

Not super high in carbs if you don't use a lot, but very low in fat and pretty high in protein. So for a keto/low carb diet - not so great.


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emoticon .. I will do that with google. I appreciate your help.

Yes, nutritional yeast was one thing the author of IBS Low starch diet said to toss--as she said it is quite high in starch. (I don't know just yet carb counts on most anything). She also said garbanzos were very starchy …. I do love my homemade hummus and make it garlicky too-with a dab of fresh lemon. … I want to get a good jump on this LCHF plan … and then see where ci am with everything.

One thing I have done for around 7 years .. since we bought our Vitamix--is to make a daily 'green drink.' My DH is diabetic and his PCP thought it was awesome, and said he drinks them every day too. Mine are made w/ lots of fresh veggies, like Kale, baby bok choy, carrots, celery, (all antioxidants) …. as well as immune system boosters. I Add some fresh raspberries and frozen pineapple to offset the 'green flavor' and add a small amount of grapefruit juice. (Since this practice, I rarely if ever get a cold for one thing) ..

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Is nutritional yeast high in carbs? I didn't know that.

And I love hummus. My mother in law makes an awesome garlicky one - and I save my carbs and eat hummus once in a blue moon. Just not every day.

Start with food you love. You can google "keto _____" like keto "chicken parmesan" and you will find a recipe. If you change the things you normally eat, you will enjoy your food more. That's my opinion of course... but I still eat the things I used to, just ketofied.

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emoticon Monday.... Thank you for your help. I decided to weigh this morning as I felt 'lighter' … and the scale was down nearly one pound from yesterday! The other thing I can't get over is the feeling of being "full' all the time. Will wait to eat breakfast until later. ..

I plan to keep my carbs low--and I ordered a Keto journal--I think It will help (hopefully it will have a list of the amount of carbs in various foods) … Going to spend some time today looking for low carb meals and planning a 'new menu.' … Also spent some time this morning purging my kitchen of things I will not eat again. Popcorn, Oatmeal, nutritional yeast, and even made fresh hummus the other day, but my DH can eat that. I read that garbanzos are way too high in starch, so that's that! ..

Again, thank you for all your help; I am excited to be on this team! Have a great day everyone!

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Amy and Koshie - welcome to you too!!

Gill I've seen you over at Team Keto too - glad you are here as well! I think it would be hard to get all your nutrition in one meal. I eat two meals a day - lunch and dinner. Once in awhile I do a full fast day (from dinner one night, skip all meals days two and eat lunch the third day) and once in awhile I do a 24 hour fast (from dinner to dinner).

I've read Delay Don't Deny, and that seems difficult for me since I like having two meals, but it could work for some. I do feel better when I'm not digesting food, which usually makes me sleepy.

I've ready Obesity Code and Complete Guide to Fasting and love Dr. Fung's attitude. Eat, don't eat. Repeat.

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Good morning to EVERYONE who has posted in the last six months!! I have been a horrible team leader. I guess I wasn't getting notified of new posts in this thread so didn't even check it.

Welcome to everyone!!

Specific questions are welcomed too.

2BDYNAMIC - everyone has a particular zone they want to be in. This forum is for IF and low carb. I do both - but actually am keto which is a stricter form of low carb. That doesn't me you or others have to be, but I choose to keep my carbs less than 20 per day if possible.

Protein 50-60, fat, about 100-120.

As far as a phase - the Atkins Induction phase of many years ago is very strict, sort of like keto is all the time. One piece of toast has 15 grams of carbs, one bag (regular microwave 3.2 oz) has 46 grams of carbs. Way too high for keto, even low carb, but if you're coming from eating 300+ grams of carbs a day it could be a transition phase for you.

I ate low carb for 3 months before I figured out I wasn't in the keto macro zone where I wanted to be. I've now been keto a year, and I've lost about 30 pounds. Not super fast, but I'm not super strict. I like wine now and then, and it stops fat burning as soon as it goes in your mouth.

My suggestions to you in particular are to track your food for a few weeks and see where you are. If you want to be strict, limit your carbs to less than 20. If you want to be low carb, limit them to less than 50. Any progress on those lines will help improve your auto immune condition I believe.

Read up on everything. Listen to podcasts. Read books. Watch YouTube videos. The more information you get, the better you can make your choices.


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emoticon Just joining today. I have ankylosing spondylitis--an autoimmune condition and I was told by a spark member to get ahold of the IBS Low starch book. I did and it is fascinating; author says "starch" is the real culprit as it breaks down into sugar--and a particular gene: HLA-327 feeds on it!! emoticon It grossed me out! So I got started yesterday, and making a new grocery list and menu plan.

Many people who read her book said their condition was relieved of the awful pain--and those suffering with IBS---(they often go together)…Plus, I have found, no matter how much exercise I do (and I am consistent--and work hard) those scales stay the same!!) … I see many have lost weight on the LCHF diet.

My emoticon is: Do I need to be on a particular phase …. as I did many years when on the Atkins diet? Because I just jumped in yesterday … and did have one piece of toast .. and a small bowl of popcorn last night...…… Any suggestions?

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Hey all! I'm Amy and new to the group but been on spark since 2007.
I started doing the 16/8 but usually its 18/6. I love how I don't feel hungry like I used to. I try to do low carbs too but not keto because that is too low for me.

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and I've been recuperating from pneumonia, a collapsed lung and pleurisy since last year's New year's Day.. It didn't help that I stubbed my little toe repeatedly and developed neuropathy. So... I regained all my weight lost. emoticon
And here I am, fat, flabby, and frustrated. My body has reminded me of why it is so important to me for me to lose weight: my knees! So I'm sitting here next to the fridge, because that's where my computer is, battling cravings..... on my 4th cuppa tea. Sigh.
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Hi! I'm 24 yrs over 40!
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I have been gradually shifting towards embracing IF over some time now.

I got into No S diet about 4yrs ago, and have moved from 3 meals and 3 snacks a day, to having three meals a day with no seconds, no sweets, no snacks. This had really 'steadied' my appetite/blood sugar and I re-set my weight 10lbs lower than it had been at the start.

With this simplification of eating I then I got interested in eating more seasonally and came across Ayurveda. Here I encountered the concept of having my main meal at midday, and eating an 'earlier, lighter, dinner'. At first I really missed (emotionally) making a nice evening meal to end my day. But I've got used to it now, and my last meal of the day is usually soup, or salad, or fruit salad and yoghurt - and I don't eat after about 6pm.

Lately I've been feeling like I only need two meals really............ but it has to fit around work, so I've not managed to achieve this just yet - but it's where I'm heading. For me, I think, eating about 10am and 5pm would be ideal - something like that.

I'm currently not eating between about 6pm to 8am - which gives me 14hrs. I watched the Jason Fung video which shows that the true benefits come at around 16hrs. I don't want to get too hung up about it - just having extended non-eating periods in the day is so beneficial for the body anyway.

I work shifts 24/7 in the care sector, so eating meals can sometimes be tricky. I take my meals to work with me - so I'm in control of WHAT I eat - but the timing can be problematic. However, I no longer die from hunger every 3 hrs - which I used to - along with headaches if I didn't have a snack! Those days are over thank heavens!
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I used to be a nightmare with food - I always carried snacks in my bag and would get really grouchy if a meal was delayed. I thought that was just how I was. I was wrong. My body is really happy to have food every 6hrs, and I don't get a headache or get grouchy if a meal is delayed anymore! Hunger (in the world I live in) is NOT an emergency - it's just a signal from the body.

I can't see myself doing one meal a day - how do you get all the nutrients you need from one meal?

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Hello team! I'm Mouse and I just turned 48yr old last week and I am trying to lose 48lb this year not in 3 mobths but in a year. I met my first goal of 5lbs down by my birthday. Now I'm working on losing 8lbs. I hope to be an active team member

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Hi all - just turned 63 years old, I've tried this before and fallen off... kind of hard right now because I'm unemployed and around the fridge all day, but going to get back on this. It's easier to not eat because when I eat, I get hungrier - weird, I know. But I've been on this weight roller coaster so long, I'm an expert unfortunately!

Want to lose 20 lbs. by June of 2020 for my son's wedding! I literally got on the scale this morning and gained nearly 2 lbs. this past week (did go out for Valentines Day last night but) -- so I am with you!

I've read Dr. Fung's Obesity Code, and have read Gin Stephen's Delay, Don't Deny - and I think they are both great and full of good information.

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Hey all! Been a Sparkpeople member since 2007, just haven't been on sparkteams in awhile (I went to look at my list and realized I aged out of all the 30's groups I was in! LOL)
I've been doing IF on and off since about 2014. It really helps me from regaining weight and staying in a better calorie range (I do 16/8 but usually hit 18/6).
I used to do Keto as well, but had a negative experience due to the fact that I don't have a gallbladder which is needed to properly digest and get all the nutrient benefits of healthy fats... long story short, my body became malnourished and my hormones got all screwed up. Took me over 6 months and a ton of vitamins to get right again. Since then I've learned about taking Ox Bile to help me take in the nutrients from fat. As you can imagine, I'm a bit shy to go back full force Keto after that ordeal, but one of the best benefits I got was being able to go off my meds for my blood sugar. My A1C got out of the prediabetic range for the first time since 2005!!! I really learned my body works better without the unhealthy carbs and sugar. I have another 70+ lbs to lose... 105 lbs to my ultimate goal weight.
I'm from SC (though originally a New England girl), 42, married with 3 kiddos (13,6,2). Look forward to chatting with you!

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I'm sorry to hear about your Momma. I lost mine in 2004 and she was only 57. I am now 51 and it worries me as I approach that age. I'm a lot healthier than she was but need to stay active.

Your question about 16/8 18/6 5/2. Refers to intermittent fasting. So 16 hours of fasting and 8 hours in which you eat all your meals and snacks. I'm working on doing the 16/8. So 18/6 would be 18 hours of fasting. 5/2 I think is probably 5 days doing the fasting and 2 days you don't worry about it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

My doctor just recommend this to me. She is not a fan of the Ketogenic Diet which I have tried before and feel is too restrictive for me but totally am not against it. I had an epiphany after she suggested this to me that I've done this before and just did not realize it. When I was in my early twenties I had a period of time in my life where my schedule changed and I was not eating after 3:30 to 4:00 PM. It was organic - not planned. It was also a time in my life when I did not have a car so I walked or took transit. I ended up losing 100 lbs in this time frame and I had no explanation for it other than I had to walk everywhere but now I think it had more to do with my eating schedule.

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What does it mean when people write. 16/8. 16/6. 5:2. Ect.

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Hey ya all. I've been doing sp for a while but haven't been real active in several months, Dr. Wants me to start low carb and set time to eat. She said 2 pm to 7 pm tried it but with me taking meds in the morning I was getting weak and nauseated , I'm thinkin noon to 6. But worried still about mornin meds may move them up till noon since I only take meds 1 time a day. I'm really gonna get started big time on this journey after Christmas. I just lost my best friend. MY MOMMA a few weeks ago and it's been very hard. So please be patient with me. Don't give up on me and let's help one another.God bless ya all and Merry Christmas. I live in Florida born and raised in southern Illinois. ( hopefully moving back there soon). I have 2 daughters 13,and 22. And 2 beautiful granddaughters 2 and 4. A wonderful husband that I love with all my heart. I love to sing and I play the Bass guitar at church. I'm blessed no matter the trails we go thru. I'm strong. Thank you. Becky

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Hi there!
I've been doing IF since the beginning of October. I'm also doing low carb (30-70g/day) but not Keto per se. Generally I do 16/8, sometimes 18/6 and once in a while I don't at all. I am enjoying it and am the most surprised about the reduction in cravings. The first few days were hard - headaches I think from sugar withdrawal. But since then, I don't get cravings for things like I used to and when I do eat, I fill up much faster - like my stomach has shrunk.

I think this way of eating might finally be something that I can sustain! So far I've lost 11 lbs but I did go on vacation where I didn't fast and ate whatever I wanted so I was up and then spent 10 days for that to get back where I started.

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Hi all! I'm new to the group, and have found some motivation to continue my journey after a just feeling a bit lost and deflated for a while. I have been doing 16/8 IF since August because I was feeling exhausted and head-achy constantly. I did some research and decided to try it. It did help me feel better, helped my body digest my food and I think had something to do with my sugar levels. I did not lose weight, because I was not watching what I ate, but I also did not gain any weight despite eating pretty carelessly over the last couple of months. I now want to combine IF with a moderate diet of lower refined carbs, better water intake, and tracking religiously, to help me be more thoughtful about what I eat. I started last week, and so far, 3 lbs down! I hope to find inspiration and encouragement from you all! Happy Thanksgiving to you all!


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Hi JAZZYGF and welcome.

What exactly have you started? Everyone on here has a unique protocol that they have designed for themselves and we all started out from a different place. Our bodies are all different and what works for one person does not necessarily work for others. Are you doing lowcarb? ketogenic? fasting?

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Hi all, returning to Spark after a 6 year break, ready to start again. I am an Aussie mum of 3 kids, who works from home - looking forward to inspiration and friendship to keep me motivated!

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I have been on and off spark people over the last several years. I'm a mommy to two wonderful kiddos and will be starting a new clinical social worker position. I'm back at it again trying to lose weight and had some success with another diet or better said as a lifestyle change. I'm going to be starting a protein sparing modified fast. Curious if anyone has tried it and if it was successful/?

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New to the team and new to IF and OMAD... but after 4 days, I feel like a million $$ compared to how I felt last week.... also off caffeine, altho, I think the coffee I had at a brunch this morning was with caffeine... but it really affects my sleep.... So here's to another day, week, and hopefully plan to complete, one month at a time....

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emoticon Hello all! Well I have spent the last two years up and down the 180's. Time to move the scales down, down down!!

Going to try the low carb approach and I have to read more about Intermittent Fasting. I'm thinking it is easy enough for me to skip breakfast. Even though they say "Never Skip Breakfast". Thinking about my time to eat from Noon to 6:00 pm. Does that sound like a doable plan?

I'm going in now to read more about this team. emoticon


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Welcome Starrchild,

Yes we have to eat food but we don't have to eat the addictive foods like sugar and starchy foods. It's hard to give them up to begin with (like any addiction) but after you get them out of your system you will stop the craving. Just like an alcoholic that has stopped drinking. However, if you take that first bite .....



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I know it is hard but one day at a time. It is funny I have several family members that are addicts and my of drug is food but we have to eat to stay a live. But I say the serenity pray many time to give me strength.
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

Living one day at a time;
enjoying one moment at a time;
accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
taking, as He did, this sinful world
as it is, not as I would have it;
trusting that He will make all things right
if I surrender to His Will;
that I may be reasonably happy in this life
and supremely happy with Him
forever in the next.
Amen.
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I have been eating low-er carbs for a while, I started to seriously try to lose weight in March and lost 20 but that is with 2 hours of exercise 3-4 days a week and average of 800-1200 cals. It's very discouraging to work so hard and reach a bump and be told that I need to increase exercise to 6 days a week so i started investigating Keto lifestyle. I just finished Jason Fung's 'The Complete Guide to Fasting' and am in for experiment N=1.

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Hello. I am new here to the group. My name is Kathleen. I have been LC for some time and recently decided to add IF to my plan.

I will be trying the 5:2 IF diet. I'll eat a Low Carb Low Calorie diet and I'll be watching my carb intake closely. Mondays & Thursdays IF (500 cal) should work well for me. The other 5 days of will be no more than 1200 calories & low carbs each day.

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If the mind mends, the body will follow.

Gluten free is working for me!

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Hello all,
I am Melody and I did IF years ago when I was a new transplant to AUS and was at home almost all day every day....That and sparkpeople helped me lose 40 pounds.
Now, a few years later-I am working and crazy lifestyle I have decided to give it a go again as I have read that it can help with hormone reset for those of us entering menopause. I have been in peri-meno for over 15 years, now I guess I am pre-meno.
I also have a few pounds to loose so it seems like a win win to go for IF. I am going low carb as well, mostly focusing on staying away from processed things but keeping with natural.
Just turned 53, exercise 5-6 days a week...happily married, work a desk job 3 days a week and teach group fitness classes. No kids-just step boys that don't live with us, and 3 furbabies that I love dearly.
That is me in a nutshell.
Looking forward to learning more from you ladies!



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Welcome to all newer members and to JSM...thank you for sharing - looking forward to getting to know you and sharing and learning for and from you. Lots of different ways to follow this path and there are several different methods sharing and writing fantastic blogs to learn from also. Blessings and health to each of you new or long timers! Linda from Washington state

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Thx for sharing your story! We can make changes for the better and we will make the changes, even with small setbacks.

You have the right attitude!

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Gluten free is working for me!

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Hello, I am new to Keto/IF. I have been reading and toying with the idea of going low carb for several months. My revelation came when I was taking an over the counter stomach acid medication every day and I was still having reflux and severe stomach burning. On May 1, I total cut out starches and I felt 100% better in 24 hours.

Since then, I have been trying to make sure that I am getting all appropriate nutrients to stay healthy and to be able to carry on my life.

My hair has stopped falling out. My body aches are much less. My stomach has not acted up. My skin is no longer dry and scaly. We had a week stretch of hot humid weather and my feet, ankles and legs did not swell. I have lost a total of 29.5 pounds. I am trying to stay in the neighborhood of 1 to 2 pounds lost weekly. Of course, I had a 13 pound loss the week of my change. I am not often hungry.

The most important thing that I have learned is to judge the food before I put it in my mouth. Is it going to profit my body or make me feel bad later. Have I been perfect? No. I have given in to a small piece of cake at a baby shower, some breaded fried goodies, and a couple of scoops of ice cream. I have found that its not as good as it used to be. I am finding that my tastes are changing. Yesterday I fell in love with olives and dill pickle spears, which I would never eat before.(I think is was my sugar conditioning).

I am 56, a wife of 38 years, a mother of 2 (son and daughter), a grandmother of 1. I am very family oriented. I am from the Midwest and love it. I love in a small town in farm country. My newest favorite food item is Duck Eggs.

I am looking for ways to expand my knowledge of my new way of eating and find new recipes and meal plans. I also hope that I may bring hope and encouragement to someone else.


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I started april 1, 2011.

My main dietary change was to come off gluten. I could never lose weight with gluten.

Later, I incorporated other changes. I did lower carb next, averaging about 150 net grams of carbs per day.

I most recently tried IF for the second time. It does lower my blood glucose which is my main concern these days. I fell off it, and didn't try it again until recently. I've been doing it for a couple of weeks now,. It is working well for my blood glucose, and I started losing some weight again, too.

By the way, since coming off gluten, I have no more GERD, IBS, inflammatory back rash. I have a true gluten intolerance. No, I don't have celiac. Gluten intolerance is now recognized as a medical condition.

So.far, I have lost 111 pounds. Slow and steady and making changes when needed.

If the mind mends, the body will follow.

Gluten free is working for me!

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Hi Becca Boo - welcome - looking forward to getting to know you and sharing this learning curve to health. Amazed at your loss of weight and wondering how long a journey this is for you and also your fasting and low carb schedules or numbers and how you do it!!! Hope we can encourage you as well as learn from and with you. Blessings!

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Hi, new to the team. I have been on a 16:8 IF and occasionally a 12:12 with a gluten free lower carb diet. It helps my blood glucose. Doc wants me at 125 net grams of carbs per day but I sometimes go as low as 50 to 60. At the lower level, it appears I stay in a fat burning mode per my ketone level.

I just test my blood glucose more often with the lower level of carbs. I like the flexibilty with my carb level and try to eat whole foods for the most part.

If the mind mends, the body will follow.

Gluten free is working for me!

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Hi I'm new here. Read the most recent posts on this thread and wanted to answer the vegan question I saw--but I'm also saying my howdy and introducing myself too. I'm in the "plus" category (over 40) and just starting to see noticeable results from doing IF and Keto together. I LOVE Dr. Fung's logic! The idea I'm experiencing autophage after fasting UNTIL I eat sugar/carbs helps me want to fast. Keto helps me keep fasting without the "keto flu" or other symptoms of not getting enough nutrition.

@TEAGIRL49X2 I saw Dr. Berg doing a video on this topic you are asking about. He recommends, over how ever long it takes you to do so, IF to one or two meals a day at most with no snacks. He recommends, depending on body weight and size, eating (5 if your tiny) average of 7 (10 if your a larger person to start with) cups of potassium-rich and other vitamins/mineral rich salad mix with 3-6 ounces of protein and what ever fats you need to get that all down (salad dressing, avocado, etc) Vegan protein is well within his plan which focuses on specific things we can do to reduce any of the negative symptoms associated with fasting&keto. Now--summarizing the plan, as I have above, doesn't do it justice as there are reasons given for each choice (why this and not that) and he has a lot more to say/indepth info but it may be worth checking into if you are interested.

I've been transitioning from normal eating to Dr. Berg's plan over the past two weeks. My neighbors started to notice that I'm loosing fat (specifically, not weight yet--but hurray, things are heading in the right direction!!!) I've also studied Dr. Fung's videos and tried them (but didn't get rid of more than 10 lbs--but hey 10 lbs is 10 lbs and I've been able to keep it off about six months or so) so I'm adding the Ketogenic Diet to the IF in an attempt have better results.

Having said this, I also ran across a naturopath who, intellectually speaking, filled in a missing gap for me. He was a practicing MD who left the practice to practice more natural "do no harm" medicine and studied, and studied, and studied. He said towards the end of his MD career when he was attending all of those continuing education seminars he was required to go to there would invariably be lobbyist-type people with charts and data about this diet or that--he quickly dispelled all of it stating that veggies are the answer. All of the diets had in common eating less processed foods and more fresh fruits and veggies, less standard-american-diet junk and that's what made people better; not a specific eating plan. That's so freeing to be able to focus on what works for me/my body type and not worry about "rules" or any of that other stuff.

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Dr. Fung says that you can get benefit from fasting with any diet. That being said it is easier to fast when you are on a ketogenic diet. A vegetarian ketogenic diet is definitely possible especially if you eat eggs and dairy.

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Hello! I am only in my second day of trying IF and I am doing the 16/8. I am not following a keto plan, but rather I am a vegetarian. I am wondering if the two can work together to benefit me because I know that most are following a keto diet. Any thoughts??? Thank you and looking forward to learning from you all.

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Hi everyone! I just finished Dr. Fung's "The Obesity Code" and want to see if intermittent fasting will work for me. I've lost about 20 pounds in the last year through a combination of moderate complex carbs and steadily increasing cardio and strength training. However, the weight loss and toning haven't had much impact on blood sugar and other health numbers. Success for me will include getting off Metformin, and from what I've read IF has helped many people achieve that result.

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Hi Koshie1,
It's good to have a plan and I'm so glad that you 'get' my science words. I get on a roll and ....

I too am on team 'I like to eat my carbs/protein rather than drink them'. I'm going to use up my protein powder as crackers:

1 & 1/2 c almond flour
1 c protein powder (unflavoured pref)
approximately 1 c sour cream
2 t salt
seasonings you like - I did garlic and summer savoury

Mix all together well until you get a playdough like consistency. Press between two pieces of parchment paper. Dry in a low oven until crispy. Enjoy! Macros depend on what protein powder you started with. These crackers are good with a cheese and pepperoni plate or dip them kind of like chips - they're super filling!

Too bad about the fence. But, posting this recipe made me think - bet bambi wouldn't like herbs. Might be worth a shot - not the tasty ones like basil, but maybe dill, summer savoury, thyme - the stronger woody stem ones. Especially since it's dry in your neck of the woods.

So glad to hear your appetite has returned - who knew it would be welcomed back LOL! Glad to hear your nutrition expert is on board with keto.

Last night was tough for me - check out my blog! Salt cravings turned into 1/2 a bag of tortilla chips (yes I know better). Today is a new day and I still feel stuffed from the overeat last night. Old habits die hard - almost as bad as a Shakespeare play where the guy takes 4 pages to finally be quiet LOL!

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Every time I see SAD, it makes me laugh -- the perfect acronym!
It took me YEARS to learn to quit using polysyllabic words and/or scientific jargon -- i was alienating people and it wasn't worth that. But I'm still a scientist at heart, and I understand you. No worries on that score.
While I love the LC WOE and have been on (and OFF) it for decades, I've never been able to permanently convert my WOE and eventually regain. Trying full-out keto is new to me and I was terribly surprised to feel uncomfortably stuffed on so little food that I could barely eat for days. And I couldn't find any literature on that topic. Telling me your experience has been helpful --thanks! I especially appreciate hearing about your ketorade and how it helps with your cramps. I've been drinking bouillon -- but I absolutely prefer to EAT rather than drink my carbs, and this ketorade will be more portable also!

Sigh... there is no way we are putting up a fence. We might be rural, but we do have a HOA which would have a FIT if we did that. Not to mention, we're on a mountain-side --- no soil to grow anything important enough to protect with that kind of investment! I just made a small bed to scatter wild-flower seeds...... but all the animals eat all the plants and even pull up the roots and nothing is allowed to grow except the dried up-looking native stuff... I did not grow up learning to cope with this!

I knew instinctively that being able to eat so very little (~600 cals and 50 g protein daily) was unhealthy for me. My appetite has finally returned this morning! Now that I'm not walking around feeling all day as if I just stuffed myself at Thanksgiving, I'll continue with a protein-sparing Keto diet as long as I can, because so far this is not an unpleasant diet; and the nutrition expert I consulted and the calculators I've found indicate I can be healthy and lose weight rapidly on 850-950 cals until I exhaust a certain portion of my fat stores in August (at which point I must add more calories and slow down my weight loss rate slightly until I reach goal). If all continues as it has been the last couple days (a vain hope, I know!), I'm set! I've even come across a couple keto-style plateau-breaking strategies -- so maybe all is well for the foreseeable future!

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Hi Koshie,
Thank you so much for the well wishes. This week has been tough as Rick isn't feeling well (man cold and other health concerns - waiting for an appointment for 2 months and still waiting isn't very fun) and my PMS...we just need to communicate more and he's not a talker!
I'm probably not doing keto, but I'm certainly not getting the SAD (standard American diet) levels of carbs. Back when I was tracking, my carbs were below 20 g net and then I switched to total (apparently different bodies process carbs differently), getting protein to about 70 g and the fat grams about the same. Back two years ago when I was getting measured with the Ideal Protein induction measurer, (upper body only) it consistently said I had 107 pounds of lean mass - which works for the 0.7 g of protein per pound of lean mass. I'm certainly no body builder but I have worked in a couple of produce departments, grocery departments and liquor stores over the years and generally the boxes of things were about 50 pounds - although I refused to move the 75 pound watermelon cases. Even now, at my weakest (desk job currently and no gardening all winter), I hope it's about the same number. Boy, I really hope so! Again, I'm not tracking but keeping non-carby veggies to a max of a cup a day and leafy greens to a max of 2 cups a day - or less. Today I had 1 and 1/2 cups of kale for the day and about 2 T of onions along with my turkey, spices and cheese.

About cramps - occasionally I do get a twinge (usually in my calves) and when I do, I make some ketorade - my take on gatorade. On my counter is a glass jar with about a 1/2 cup of salt (pick your favourite) which I fill up with ordinary tap water. I let it sit on the counter overnight - all the salt that will go into solution will do that overnight or for 24 hours. This stuff never goes bad (covered) as salt acts as a preservative. In the morning, each tablespoon of that water has 1400 mg of sodium in it, give or take - it is a saturated solution and depends on how much minerals were in the water in the first place and the ambient temperature (sorry about the science). I shake it up just to make sure the salt solution is evenly mixed (the most saturated will sink to the bottom) and when you shake it up, it sometimes gets clear swirlies, which tells me it isn't an even solution (halocline to my scuba friends). I make up my two water bottles (750 mL each) with 1 T of this salty water, 1/2 t of stevia water enhancer and top that off with water. I've tried 'shooting' that salt water, but it makes me nauseous. It helps with cramps, cravings (my old go-tos were chili, nachos and cheese and that's what was for dinner nearly daily - gee wonder how I gained so much LOL), and going #2 to the bathroom. I keep my ketoraide to 2 T of that salt water a day as I have learned that my bathroom habits are greatly affected, not in a good way, if I go over that.
Apparently potassium is very easy to obtain from the food you eat and it is dangerous (heart rhythm probs) if you supplement and don't actually need. I take a range of minerals at night but only one each night - the body only has so many uptake receptors for them at one time, so the rest gets excreted. I pick from a kelp supplement, magnesium, zinc or calcium, depending on how long it's been since the last dose. I think they recommend not to take more than 500 mg of calcium at one time as the rest will just pass through and not be absorbed. I don't remember the rest of the absorption rates, but keep it to the recommended doses on the bottles.
The way I remember things work in keto is that it is a very efficient way to have your body run. It just doesn't require as much water to digest, so it gets flushed - literally! With the water goes the electrolytes - they are in solution and because the inside of the body is mostly isotonic solutions... ooh... my roots are showing!! Sorry LOL. That is my understanding and rusty recollection.
Also, as I enjoy about three cups of coffee in the mornings, I keep my minerals at the opposite end of the day. In the mornings if/when I remember, I take either my multivitamin, fish oil or Udo's oil.(just using up the udo's oil - shooting that is almost as much fun as shooting that salt water.).
I'm retaining water half the time because of PMS which seems to have gotten more arduous in the past three months...might need to do some research on how to fix that before my name is on the evening news - pray for my fiancee LOL!!!

Around our garden is an 7-8 foot high fence (it's only on three sides - the fourth side is about 5 feet tall, but don't tell Bambi and his friends) which my carpenter fiancee put up two summers ago. Our garden is doing much MUCH better. Not only do we have deer, but wild turkeys (about 35 of them), cougars, bears and the occasional neighbour's dog wander through. The turkeys are the worst as they eat my grapevines and leave their calling cards all over the place. You just get used to talking to yourself outside the house. I like to sing 'Teddy Bears' Picnic', which reminds me to be vigilant - and it's kind of cute.

Something really interesting I've learned recently was about gluconeogenesis. Here's a brief vid about what sparked that research - among others, of course!: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q0o
zaemkio
The hosts are young and totally work out hard at the gym, but they have some really great treat recipes and some interesting insights on their channel. When you watch it, Dr Rod Taylor has a similar accent as many of the oncologists I type for (he's from Victoria state and my oncologists are from Western Australia and occasionally from Queensland).

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That was a wonderful post, Alana! Yes, I know you a little better now!
Are you doing keto? Probably not -- keto is less than 20 g carb a day -- and there is argument about whether or not you get to deduct fiber from that. This is not advice -- who am I to argue with what is working for you? I always say, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" You seem happy; and happy on any diet -- especially one that works for you! -- is a great thing! As for bulletproof coffee -- that is just a way to get more fat into your keto diet early on when you begin your diet. It helps prevent the "keto flu" until your body starts metabolizing your own body fat. After 4.5 months, you're way past "just starting out"! I have to ask you though.... when you were food tracking/journalling, did you keep your protein intake at about 100 grams? All the keto experts seem to agree that that is what a person of any age,size, sex, weight should eat daily and no more(!) unless you are a competitive body-builder.

I am also very curious to learn about your experience on another score... did you get any muscle cramps? I am starting to. From what I've read, getting sufficient potassium, Mg, and Ca -- AND retaining them -- are key. They say to drink salty fluids to help you retain your minerals since being in ketosis means you tend to lose water easily (since there is no glycogen in your body to hold onto it). Hmmmph! Now that makes me wonder if you are retaining water for 2 weeks outa 4 because your body is attempting to retain minerals? Do you drink salty fluids?

How do you keep the wild animals out of your 1 acre garden? The deer here haven't eaten my iris yet; that's the ONLY thing they haven't eaten to death. Except for the iris, my 4 acres are totally wild.

Congratulations on the weight loss and on your upcoming wedding! I wish you all happy days!

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and after all that, I didn't say.... and I'm just starting to intermittent fast. I don't do a specific window of eating, but if I'm not hungry then I don't eat.
Just a couple of days ago I tried it out for the first time. I wanted to see how long it would take for me to 'actually' be hungry. I had a couple of black coffees and .... didn't eat until dinnertime. And I wasn't actually hungry at that point either. So, again, if I can do it, you can too!!

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Hi everyone!
My name is Alana and I've been overweight pretty much all my life. I remember being 9 years old and weighing 99 pounds (also 13 and 155; 14 and 165). When I was much thinner (size 10 pants were huge on me and I think I weighed 110) I was so stressed out that I wasn't eating or sleeping. Left that job a long, long time ago.
More recently, two years ago at the place I was working offered Ideal Protein for weight loss. I was prediabetic - I was at my all time high of 189 pounds and at 5' nothing, I was very dumpling shaped (don't remember what my HbA1c was but it was pushing 6, and I know my triglycerides were too high). I lost about 20 pounds in two months I was feeling pretty good but I was eating off diet (harvest from our garden was calling my name and my bad habits were sneaking back in). If you know anything about Ideal Protein, there is absolutely no tolerance for eating off plan and of course, they want you to buy their products, so according to them, 'our way is the only way'. I got off the diet and of course, all the weight came back.

December 2017 I researched keto diets and got all fired up about it - I was at 186# and all my 'I give up fat lady clothes' weren't fitting anymore. I knew if I didn't do something that I'd need to buy more huge clothes and I would go into a tailspin. What made me hesistate is that Christmas time is such a food-centric holiday so I debated to start right away or after the holidays. I took the plunge and was tracking everything for the first 2 months and lost just shy of 20 pounds. One day I just decided that I was spending a little too much time tracking and not living my life. So I went cold turkey on the tracking.
At the end of January I got some blood tests - one month into keto WOE (way of eating) - the GP's office called me and told me that my blood work 'looks great' whatever that means.
2 and 1/2 months later (April 2017) and my weight loss has slowed but not stalled. As a 44-year-old girl trapped in a woman's body, half the time I'm retaining about 5 pounds of fluid - this is my reality. So for those 2 weeks out of the month I avoid the scale too. I'm 5' tall and currently on a good day, I weigh 162# ish. My wedding is in June and I want to look good and feel more comfortable in my skin.
Now I'm going clothes shopping in my 'someday' section in the closet and I've gained back some of my self confidence.
My eating plan most recently is: one to two meals per day eating mainly fatty cuts of meat (this week it's turkey, so I've been adding my BFF, cheddar to the mix) and eyeballing 1 c low carb veggies and/or 2 c leafy greens. A cup is about the size of your fist. I always eat dinner and I'm learning to listen to my body for when I'm hungry (or is the clock telling me it's about time you ate).
My view is: I do me. You do you. If I 'simply can't resist' something, I eat it. I deal with it. I get past it, forgive myself for yesterday and live my life. I do my best to be the best version of me I can be. Am I eating keto? I don't know. I don't measure my ketones or my blood glucose levels. No, I don't do bulletproof coffee. No, I don't even track. BUT, I keep my carbs low, eat fatty sources of meat and listen to whether or not I'm actually hungry (that last one is my current lesson) and I'm losing weight, my inflammation is way down (knees and back aren't aching; asthma, allergies, eczema and atopic dermatitis pretty quiet; Raynaud's phenomena still kicking up but the warmer weather is near). But I digress....
I live with my fiancee (we've been together 10 years now, where has the time gone) and as he is a carpenter he has a hummingbird metabolism. I make bread and sweets for him (conventional) and I'm not even tempted anymore. It was really tough at first, but when I do get a taste of the regular stuff, it kind of tastes stale or something. A far cry from the sad fat girl of only 4 months ago who was eating cheezy nachos and drinking far too much.

If I can do it, you can too. I have the willpower of a ... feather...blade of grass...piece of paper...you get the picture.

We live in a rural area in beautiful British Columbia, Canada, in the mountains, on 5 and 1/2 acres. We have 49 Rhode Island Red chicks and by summertime they'll be laying eggs which I sell the eggs in a nearby town (deliveries to offices) and I type oncology reports for a company in Australia, from home. I do a lot (read TON) of research and watch a lot of youtube videos. I am a canner and dehydrater of the veggies we grow in our 1 acre garden. And this summer, I will be wearing things from the skinny side of the closet and feeling great - for the first time in a very long time.
A bit of a novel but now you know a little bit more about me. Can't wait to get to know you all a bit better!!

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Hello! My name is Natalie and I am here to try intermittent fasting and also a modified low carb plan. I had spent a little bit of time on a low carb group on Facebook and I did not entirely agree with the people who think that limiting cauliflower and broccoli is essential. And I was never comfortable with the high amounts of fat.

I could be absolutely wrong but I could not settle into that way of eating.

I am here to continue being "moderate" carb (i.e. about 50-75 a day) plus to look into intermittent fasting. The 5/2 plan appeals to me. But I want to hear about other ideas and listen to success stories.

I have much to learn.

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Welcome Val - SO glad to see you have come to improve health with us - jump in and share - laugh, teach and encourage as you go - looking forward to getting to know you -
Linda, 69, Washington state, learning the low carb life to fight the Dx of pre-diabetes.

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Hello Folks! My handle is usually val04011, but I originally signed up with meayeshahelp. Way to long! I am going to try to remember to change it today. I am a 62 yr. woman. 3 grown children and divorced in 87. Many life changes. Today I am going to fast as I have more control on my impulsive behavior. Lost 73 pounds in 99/00 with occasional fasting/low carb. Much to my story, but I have taken too much space right now. Stay tuned!

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RMARYT - WELCOME!!! sounds like you are winning victories already !!! Good Intermittent fasting experiences it sounds like - I use the ACV some but not consistent lately - thanks for the reminder - Sounds like you are studying nutrition too so I don't really have new ideas - except that this is a super encouraging group - jump in and share and ask questions - good teachers and encouragers!

Linda in WA state ***John 10:10b Jesus came to give me life, an abundant life!
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I'm trying to figure things out. I've been doing intermittent fasting the last few weeks 18-6 or 16-8. I seldom eat meat, don't like it and I'm lactose intolerant. Trying to do low carb higher fat also with intermittent fasting. Been doing a lot of reading trying to make a eating plan. Also drinking 2 cups water w/ Apple cider vinegar once a day. Any help, suggestions are hugely welcome!

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Hi Charlene,
Thanks for the welcome!


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emoticon Spiritedminx.
Welcome!
That is waaay cool that you are already noticing differences. GEt ready, because there are many more to come!
Keep on Keto-ing on!

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Hello G!
You have a great goal! It is ambitious, yet doable. I gave myself a year to get off my last 50 pounds and I made that goal on my birthday (2015).

I look forward to seeing you around the Spark my friend!
Charlene
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Hi everyone, my name is G and I am new to the team. I started intermittent fasting 6 days ago and it is going well. My appetite has decreased to what I feel is a normal level, and I am not eating late at night after work anymore, which was my downfall. I am currently following a 14 hour fast/10 hour window, most of which I sleep through so that helps! I am going to increase the fasting time slowly as time goes by.

I have been carrying around 50+ extra pounds for years and decided (on my birthday last week) that I do not want to be overweight on my next birthday. I am going to try not to weigh in very often, but I am excited for this and to see what kind of progress I can achieve.




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Welcome SpiritMinx. So glad you found us - We are all at various stages of new to this but having positive times losing weight and finding better health. I see you have already lost weight and learning new things is great!!! Come chat with us - sharing each little victory and thing learned. Excited for you to be finding better health while younger than my 69 years. We are from opposite corners of our country as I am up North and West in Washington state. Sitting here sipping my iced tea and feeling very good this evening.

Linda in WA state ***John 10:10b Jesus came to give me life, an abundant life!
*Gluten free, Heart Healthy, Anti-inflammatory, Diabetic Low Carb way of eating and life structure
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