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Joy, I'm gonna have to read that book too. The one I read was by Lisa TerKeurst. I'm so glad you liked it and I'm even gladder that your find out what you need to do to get better. Please keep me posted, I love hearing good stories and it never fails, you can always find a little bit of yourself in almost anyone's stories.

Never mistake failure as final

Deciding what you want your life to be like is not hard. Deciding what you are willing to do and give up to get it, is the hard part.

I will do what I need to do in order to do what I want to do.

What you do and say is a reflection of who you are, so decide who you want to be and do it.

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Becky,
I finally finished Crave by Cynthia Bulik
I had to put it down for a while after my surgery b/c of the pain meds.

I thought it was a great read for anyone wanting to move forward and stop bingeing or stay binge free. I was very struck by the fact that eating disorders run in families, and after reviewing my own family history (My maternal grandpa was a binger, my maternal grandma suffered from anorexia and purged, and my mom was a binger) I decided to start counseling.
This book helped me find the courage to get help. The last 3 chapters on size, feeling fat, and hitting the wall were the most helpful to me personally. I also have started self-monitoring again and writing down what I eat and how I feel in a daily journal. After finishing the book
I was able to honestly evaluate myself and what I need to do for myself in order to succeed.

I would defiantly recommend this book to anyone who has a bingeing problem.
I borrowed a copy from the library, but I am going to look for a copy of my own.
I would love to hear your thoughts too!
~Joy~



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emoticon 5 pounds is great
isnt it odd .i live in new zealand right at the bottom of the world. i know i will probubly never meet you or even pass any of you in the street but you have all become very important friends.i have said it at least 100 times its having people with a common goal and understanding that makes this site so great.

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I'm trying to get caught up on my 'Sparking.' I was hoping after getting a job things would calm down, but learning a job is difficult. However, I still like my job and I'm so glad I chose this one. I'm missing my spark friends though and hoping I can catch up soon. I also lost 5lb since my last weigh in and I'm so happy about it.

Never mistake failure as final

Deciding what you want your life to be like is not hard. Deciding what you are willing to do and give up to get it, is the hard part.

I will do what I need to do in order to do what I want to do.

What you do and say is a reflection of who you are, so decide who you want to be and do it.

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Thank you for this amazing thread. I read several of the online resources and watch the youtube video about the sugar addiction research. I have binged since i can remember, but always fought the urge to purge. I thought that by avoiding Bulemia, I had escaped the world of eating disorders. Wow, I was wrong! I strongly urge anyone new to this thread to explore the wonderful resources listed in prior posts and to learn that you are not alone in the world of binge eating disorder. Thanks again for this info! :)

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Becky,
I'm still reading, but it has been very eye opening. I just read the chapter on the role of genetics, OMGosh, my maternal grandpa was a binger, my maternal grandma was anorexic (88 ponds at times), and also purged with laxatives, and my mom was a binger. That coupled with extreme stress the past 7 days helped me finally swallow my pride and look into counseling. I will post again when I'm finished, maybe sooner because I always have an opinion about everything :)
Wishing you success in your journey,
~Joy~

I saw your drawings at your Spark page. They are beautiful.
You are a very gifted artist!

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Crave is an excellent book. I am part of another group that did that book as a study twice. I hope you like it. And please tell me what you think of it and what you get out of it. I'd love to hear it if you don't mind.

I finished my portrait and it was a big hit at the party yesterday. People even clapped for me. It's the first time that has ever happened. And it made a great ending to a day that started out crying.

Never mistake failure as final

Deciding what you want your life to be like is not hard. Deciding what you are willing to do and give up to get it, is the hard part.

I will do what I need to do in order to do what I want to do.

What you do and say is a reflection of who you are, so decide who you want to be and do it.

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I just got a book out of the library entitled
CRAVE: Why you Binge eat and how to stop
By Cynthia M. Bulik, Ph.D.

This looks like a book I will actually finish. :)
Very concise and helpful so far. The disclaimer says it's not intended for medical treatment, but the author states in the first chapter that she hopes it will help people who can't afford therapy.
I wanted to pass on this info to the team.
~Joy~

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Rebecka, good luck with your job. Glad you started walking.

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rely on, or blame. The gift is yours -- it is an amazing
journey -- and you alone are responsible for the quality of
it. This is the day your life really begins."

New goals:
Eat Positively
Exercise daily (that one is already achieved)
Experiment with 3-5 meals a day
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FINALLY GOT A JOB! PRAISE GOD! And just finished my first week there. So far I like it and I think I made a good choice. I'm doing Accounts Payable and Payroll for a non-profit company that helps kids with behavior problems. So far I like the work and LOVE the people. Now that I'm somewhere where I'm happy i just hope they don't change their mind and get rid of me after a couple weeks. I'll also have a 'space,' (not quite an office) with a window and I can have plants. I already bought two, a lilly and an orchid.

I also started walking again this week and tracking my calories. I'm not doing bad since I started my new job. Thank God for that too, because I gained back the 3lb I lost plus 6 more because of how depressed I was over not having a job. So it's time (overdue) to get back on track.

Never mistake failure as final

Deciding what you want your life to be like is not hard. Deciding what you are willing to do and give up to get it, is the hard part.

I will do what I need to do in order to do what I want to do.

What you do and say is a reflection of who you are, so decide who you want to be and do it.

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I'm going to repeat this on a separate thread because I know not many members keep up with this thread.

I'm very much enjoying reading SOME of the pages on the site of Ellyn Sattow, who talks of eating competence. I wouldn't want anyone to use the label to berate herself if she thinks she isn't "eating competent," but it is still an interesting concept.

There are four components for ecSatter (4)
• Context: Take time to eat, and provide yourself with rewarding meals and snacks at regular and reliable times.
• Attitude: Cultivate positive attitudes about eating and about food. Emphasize providing rather than depriving; seeking food rather than avoiding it.
• Food acceptance: Enjoy your eating, eat foods you like, and let yourself be comfortable with and relaxed about what you eat. Enjoying eating supports the natural inclination to seek variety, the keystone of healthful food selection.
• Internal regulation: Pay attention to your sensations of hunger and fullness to determine how much to eat. Go to the table hungry, eat until you feel satisfied, and then stop, knowing another meal or snack is coming soon when you can do it again.

I have found this is what I do a lot on the No S Diet. It dovetails with Judith Beck's recommendation BEFORE anyone "diets." I think most people would be better off just sticking with those principles and easing themselves into the MyPlate.gov recommendations over a period of months or years, depending on their previous habits and health conditions.

Here is a link to one of her articles: www.ellynsatter.com/resources/JoyofE
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It isn't necessarily new information. Many anti-diet proponents recommend similar ideas, but I like her presentation emoticon . Not all of her work relates to me because I am not a mother.

If this seems vague, write me separately.

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*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
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I'm looking for a job. My boss told me that we've lost enough business that he is selling the payroll part of the business and I'm going to be out of a job by the end of the month. I've been putting in applications for the last three days. And I have an interview on Monday. But surprisingly no real binges. I did accidentally eat too much last night for dinner, but it was because I over or under estimated the portion, not because I was binging.

Never mistake failure as final

Deciding what you want your life to be like is not hard. Deciding what you are willing to do and give up to get it, is the hard part.

I will do what I need to do in order to do what I want to do.

What you do and say is a reflection of who you are, so decide who you want to be and do it.

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yes! thank you!! emoticon

from the ashes of disaster grow the roses of success....chitty chitty bang bang


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Did you mean the No S Diet? nosdiet.com/

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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i don't have any links yet but....i'm signed up for kay shepard's "food addiction" workshop in November & i'm really excited about it. right now i'm using 12steps n a sponsor n doing well.....except for my weekends....i get like 7 days in a row n blow it in the middle of the night....but at least they're slips n not full blown binges. i'm intrigued by the "S" diet....but i missed the limk....

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I've been hearing good things about a book called Brain Over Binge.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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You might be interested in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJUKn2tHP
gw&feature=related

It's about food and addiction: sugar

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New goals:
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Exercise daily (that one is already achieved)
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Hi, Laura. This is a great team and I don't say that because I'm one of the leaders! This thread is more for sharing resources and info. We do a lot more discussing of daily issues on the 21-day thread and you don't have to be aiming for a streak. I hope you'll come and give us a chance to get to know you. emoticon

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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congrats on your 11 days :) I cant wait to get bye two days. your message inspired me. My name is Laura. I've been fighting binge eating for years. i just cant stop myself. Its like my stress reducer (only for a short time) then feel terrible. I'm going to look into the books and articles on this.

forgive yourself, seems you have, and you will get right back on being free. You have alot of control and dicilpine.
Id love to chat with this team so much. Need to make the time to do it, now that the computer is working again.

take care
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You are welcome Jule! The resources are out there! We can all get great help!

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Thanks for this link. I read the part about bingeing - my biggest problem - and it was very helpful.

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A great resource I just found out about is called A Weigh Out. You can get a free phone call from Ellen Schuman, the founder, who talks about binge eating. It's really great and I recommend it!

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One of our members listed some free online workbooks for eating disorders. I think they are from Australia. I glanced at them briefly and bookmarked them for future perusal. Perhaps you'd like to take a look.
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/resources/i
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*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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Ah! I love Princess Bride! OOLALA53 Edited. OOOPs sorry for posting!

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I've moved up a little piece of one of my posts so that you can see the books I mention without reading the whole post.

For examining the emotional issues specifically, I like Shrink Yourself. For self-discipline strategies (NOT the dieting part), I like Judith Beck. For the chemical basis of all this, I surf the web. But for pure down-home wisdom, The NO S Diet.

And I add now for a start on working on thinking patterns that cause anxiety, sadness, depression and self-hate (not always in relation to food), see the work of David Burns and Byron Katie, though they are from different sides of the spectrum.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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Please post here only resources and information on binge eating.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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Hi all,

OK I am officially calling it Binge free 11 days. Today was a day of binging. Not as bad as I'm used to but nevertheless binging.

I am going to start again tomorrow. I think I will use the no S diet too. However my weekend is Friday and Saturday so I'm going to change the S days to Friday and Saturday. Except for the weekend days I do eat only one plate/bowl of food. It seems easy enough to follow.

I did manage to exercise today.

The best day of your life is the one on which you decide your
life is your own. No apologies or excuses. No one to lean on,
rely on, or blame. The gift is yours -- it is an amazing
journey -- and you alone are responsible for the quality of
it. This is the day your life really begins."

New goals:
Eat Positively
Exercise daily (that one is already achieved)
Experiment with 3-5 meals a day
Avoid binge for at least 3 weeks.


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For those of you that see your binge/emotional eating disorders as more than meets the eye (a spiritual battle as it were), I'm going to check out a book called "Weightless" by Kate Wicker...

This is written from a Catholic perspective so I know this read isn't for everyone.

I will give my review once I've read it!



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I see a few people have already mentioned Overcoming Binge Eating by Christopher Fairburn. I wanted to add that this is the book that helped me most when I first tried to address my binge eating (as opposed to just trying to lose weight).

I like that it's based on scientific research and offers practical strategies. It is written in a matter-of-fact but compassionate manner. Using the programme it describes helped me to understand a lot of the reasons for my binges.

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I've been impressed with some of the ideas in Mindless Eating, though that is not about binge eating. Now there's an online program that is supposed to be based on all the research that the author has been doing for so many years. They claim that they listen to you with regard to your habits and come up with a few suggestions at a time, modifying as you go over the course of several months. It's not free but not very expensive, esp. since it isn't just a crap shoot with a ton of advice that might not apply thrown at you. I'm not going to do it myself because I feel I'm so close to where I want to be on my own and I'm working my own system enough that I'm not sure I'd be open to new ideas right now, but I'll revisit the topic on Mar. 20, the first day of spring. If I haven't made some of the changes I say i want to by then, I'll see if that might be my next best bet.

Here is the link to the online program:
www.mmethodeating.com/

I said on another thread that I was going to cite two resources but I can't remember what the other one was. Later, I guess.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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I finally realized that I don't have a weight problem. I have an eating disorder--Binge Eating Disorder(BED). Although it is not yet official, it is likely to be included in the updated DSM-V due to be published May 2013. www.medpagetoday.com/Psychiatry/Gene
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For 8 months in 2009, I was in an eating disorder center that was based on EDs as an addiction. It's quite common for people with EDs to also have other addictions. They used a healthy modified ADA plan, mostly restricting sugar, white flour and other highly refined carbohydrates. It was not considered a diet, but a food plan that could be used for the long term. Support and recovery were centered around Overeater's Anonymous and other 12-Step Groups. I lost 80 lbs and kept it off until the end of 2010, when I faced overwhelming stresses and gained back 60 lbs in about 3 months.

This past Jan, the Eating Disorder Center of Denver started one of the first Binge Eating Disorder programs in the country. It was a 10-week Partial Hospitalization Program followed be a robust Outpatient Program. The food program was also based on a modified ADA plan, but there were no exclusions. In fact, we were encouraged to incorporate a limited amount of our favorite binge foods into our plans. The theory was that as soon as Binge Eaters are told we can't have a certain food, that is the exact food we crave.

The focus of the program was not to lose weight, but to stop binging. We were encouraged to not check our weight and were not allowed to know our weights that were recorded in the charts. Those who did check, including myself, were pretty discouraged by the slow weight loss progress. I was told that when I start releasing my baggage, the weight would come off.

The primary therapeutic modality was Cognitive Behavioral Therapy since there is empirical data proving it is the best type of therapy to treat eating disorders. At least it was enough to convince my insurance company to pay for treatment.

I guess the point I want to make is that Binge Eating is a lot more complicated than anyone realized and extremely hard to interrupt. I think it's finally being taken seriously by the medical and psychological community. No one has an easy solution that works universally. Plus there's still the very powerful diet industry that actually works against recovering from eating disorders.

I've read many of the resources listed in this topic. Most have some really interesting theories and great ideas. I know that the solution for me is going to be an amalgam of different plans, therapies, and resources. And it is up to me to figure out what is going to work for my situation. No one is going to do it for me.

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Great resources! My hubby just ordered me a kindle as an early anniversary gift so I will download some of these for sure! I have not been "diagnosed" with an eating disorder, but I definately have food issues.....

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The Addictive Personality by Nakken

Just a very interesting look at how addictions (food and otherwise) progress

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I recently followed up on an author, Laurel Mellin, whom I had read years ago. She recommended a basically non-diet approach, though she is a dietician, and said a peson should choose light, healthy foods as often as seemed possible. She called other foods "luscious," and she recommended not cutting them out of a person's life, but to be trying to balance them. She did recommend doing some work on emotional issues, but appararently she has gone on to greatly refine that work. She is now Associate Clinical Professor of Family and Community Medicine and Pediatrics at UCSF. It's pretty impressive that she has gotten the medical community to respect her work, since it is based on "rewiring" our brains and the way we process emotions, rather than on specific diets or drugs. She went on to write several more books. If you do a search on her on Amazon, you'll see the offerings, but I've also included a link to the website for the program that she conducts. It sounds like you can do a lot of it online, but you also have a telegroup you interact with, and you can do it in modules.

www.ebt.org/store/food-addiction

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I have a huge library of eating disorder books. Here's a list (most are specifically ED, but some are just self-acceptance):

- Life Without Ed
- Dancing With Fear
- Eating in the Light of the Moon
- I ain't much babe- but I'm all I've got (Jess Lair)
- How to be your own best friend
- Love is letting go of fear
- Overcoming Binge Eating (Fairburn)
- Overcoming Overeating
- Food and Feelings Workbook
- Friendly Mirrors
- Karly Pittman's ebooks on Sugar Addiction and Body Image


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Anna, the reasons are multiple and no one can completely explain it all in one post. And even when we know why, it doesn't suddenly make it easy because our intellectual self is not the one in charge a lot of the time. The basic outer reason we do it is because we want the pleasure of the taste and to some degree the feeling of being full. Over a long time, we've come to pair that taste and feeling with the experience of many emotions. They don't even have to be strong or terribly negative. It can just be boredom. We've also paired them with many situations. If we've eaten after dinner for months or years, you can bet it's not going to be easy to stop that. If you've finished off what's in the fridge or the cabinet many times, it's the easiest thing in the world to do it again.

The brain will send signals in the form of sensations which we interpret as emotions and urges and these will be paired with thoughts or images of us getting the food because it is a habit. That's what habits are--repeated pathways of impulses in the brain. The habit may be in response to life difficulties combined with foods that are designed to overcome our brain's natural ability to tell us we've had enough, but that's what it is-- a habit of overeating for many many reasons.

It's actually not surprising at all that we do these things. The eating habit does provide a temporary relief or pleasure. What's surprising is that we think the circuitry ought to go away because we want it to be gone! Something else must supercede it. Sometimes if people get scared enough of some kind of consequence, it can help override the urges, but it's rare for any emotion to last long enough to take care of that. It's easy to feel you won't do it again right after a binge because the urge isn't there, but later the urge will return. NOT GIVING IN is the best way to counteract it. Until that becomes very clear, until we accept that completely, we will likely keep bargaining. Oh, I can just have this. I can eat this instead. Etc. Thankfully, even if we bargain a lot, once we start resisting and keep coming back to that, we will gain a stronghold. From there, we build. It may sound like torture but it's not. WE still get to eat delicious food every day. Just in moderate amounts spread out over the day.

Part of resisting is finding something else to do besides eat. Either we try to solve the problem at hand, or we divert to something else, either because it's not possible in the moment to solve it or it just seems too big or we realize it's less important than we thought. Those are the only two choices besides actually eating. But that can be daunting, so it's easy to see why we take the food way out. It doesn't matter that we can see rationally that it doesn't work. The circuits are there!

So, maybe it's because you're bored or nervous or who knows what. Doesn't matter what the reason is. The only way to stop it is to stop it! Because it's unlikely to stop on its own.

I've culled this from countless different books and articles read over YEARS, but as I think I've posted here before, the eating program that has done me the most good is one that is not designed for people with eating disorders at all. It's the No S Diet, but part of the reason I could accept its wisdom and implement the plan with about 80% success for over a year --the longest I've ever gone with mostly sane eating-- is because of all the other bits and pieces I've learned. And because I was scared enough that this would never end if I didn't embrace a way of life that gave me enough satisfaction that I felt I could keep living that way rather than be a on a diet counting calories for the rest of my life. I don't count calories and I'm making better and better choices all the time.

I hope you don't have to take as long as I did to accept that giving up dieting and committing to eating moderately, picking and choosing over a period of time to discover what blend of foods is going to make you content all the time, is actually the quickest path to freedom.

For examining the emotional issues specifically, I like Shrink Yourself. For self-discipline strategies (NOT the dieting part), I like Judith Beck. For the chemical basis of all this, I surf the web. But for pure down-home wisdom, The NO S Diet.
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SWIMSTAR347 - Anna,

I too have eaten sweets before (ice cream) not because I was craving it but just because I knew it was there, it was accessible (like you mentioned with the mini candy bars). I don't understand that & would like tips too!

Anyone else experience this? How did you handle it? Any information that could help one understand why we would do this to ourselves?

I wasn't even feeling stressed or upset. I just ate it because I knew it was in the freezer a few nights in a row until it was gone.

Thanks!

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That does sound like a good idea. I think we bingers can get too caught up in thinking that we are completely controlled by our triggers. I don't recommend trying to push the envelope, but I have learned that I do not have to overeat in many of the situations that others can sometimes make sound all powerful. I, too, am determined to keep making progress giving up excuses for not pursuing a sane relationship with food. emoticon

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OK, so this is not specifically a "binge eating" resource, but I just finished reading Wayne Dyer's "Excuses Begone" and it really made me look at my habits in a different light. I don't have to continue to make the same choices that lead me down the wrong path. It is NOT written in my genetic code. I can make new healthier choices. very empowering book. I highly recommend it!!

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Loving all the book recommendations! On my to do list for the day...check the library for these books! THANK YOU!

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Thank you for the resources! What is your take on the Sparks book?

Also, what do you do when you have a huge craving for sugar and you have access to it?

I ate 5 fun size 3 musketeers this week and after the 2nd I wasn't even craving them I just ate them because of emotions and access? Any tips?

Thanks for sharing what works!
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Found this pdf file while looking up books at my local library. Good article. This is the first I've really read about the subject.

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What works for me is a hypnosis CD by Dr Temes. I almost forgot about it because I need to utilize it more instead of it sitting on the shelf. I'm just sharing this because it may work for you as well. I use to weight 208 last year around this time. I am now 140 but, muscular built I'm now more muscles than my pics so I hope that I may be a inspiration to someone one day.... Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!

Use negetivity and name calling as your motivation.
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Books that have really helped me are:

Binge No More...Your Guide to Overcoming Disordered Eating, by Joyce Nash

50 Ways to Soothe Yourself Without Food, by Susan Albers

The emotional eaters book of inspiration, by Debbie Danowski

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I just finished a blog about my teen life... and remembering how I would binge eat even then... and some of the whys. It has taken me many years to openly admit to binge eating... and just as I am doing so... I read your recommended articles. And I sadly/gladly... passed the Symptoms by 100%. I say gladly... because it made me take another step to admittance... which is another step to recovery. Thank You for your recommendations... and timing !

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Hi, LZ. I am still working with No S after a funky summer, but I know there isn't much else for me to do. Even if I get ideas from other books, I just always look to see how they can fit in with No S. I've had a few really good weekends, and those are and will be the pivotal times for me. I'm more often on the 21-day streak thread. If I haven't invited you there before, consider this it! Most there don't use No S, but some have incorporated it and achieved some impressive streaks. But anything that helps us stop obsessing over what and how much we eat is a godsend. emoticon

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Wow I just checked out the S diet link and its so simple for long term control.
(no sweets/snacks/seconds) My husband is a naturally normal weight person who eats whatever he wants. But I definately noticed he hardly ever has seconds except on holidays, he eats sweets rarely but when he wants them he has no problem eating just one portion and he snacks maybe once after dinner a few times a week but not constantly throughout the evening and not every night. I want to be like him because my current eating patterns always lead to weight gain and that really needs to stop!

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thank you all . will try to remember all these books and try to get and read them .

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I've posted this other places but it seems appropriate here, too, as there are some different people reading this thread. Source is not specifically meant for BED, but it helps with the recommendation by many BED therapies to have some kind of regular structure to eating, to learn to eat moderate portions of all or most foods (some may choose to abstain from certain types, though in this program it is not recommended), and a chance to experience and satisfy normal hunger.

This is a link to a success story of a BED sufferer who used the program plus other emotional support influences to find some contentment with food and her body.

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I have just started reading the book by Dr. Fairburn that others had mentioned, "Overcoming Binge Eating." I also ordered another book, "Overcoming Overeating: How to Break the Diet/Binge Cycle and Live a Healthier, More Satisfying Life" by Jane Hirschmann. Amazon actually has a pretty big selection of books on the topic; I tried to choose the best reviewed books. The first book is very informative, with two sections dedicated to the how/why of binge eating, and then for treatment. I'll be sure to share more!

"By overcoming the strong current against which he swims, the koi reminds us that we have the freedom to move in any direction we choose."


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Personally, I found "Life Without Ed" by Jennie Schaffer to be very helpful. It gives a whole new perspective of what an eating disorder really is. The book refers to an eating disorder as "Ed" (get it? it's an acronym), essentially forming the eating disorder into a seperate being from yourself. It really helped me to imagine my eating disorder as seperate from me. It helped me reach acceptance and also a little bit of closure when it comes to my eating disorder.
The book gives helpful activities and advice that can help you overcome your eating disorder. I absolutely loved it.
Of course I still struggle with my binge eating on a daily basis, but since reading this book it has gotten significantly better.
Hope this helps!

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Keep going, everyone! The most important thing you can do to stop bingeing is to not binge. Sound crazy? It just means that to stop a habit, you go a long way just not participating in the habit. Each time you don't perform the behavior, and replace it with something pleasurable or productive ( not another vice!), you help change the brain pattern that keeps the habit in place. Just knowing that has helped many people stay strong in the face of an urge to eat and find something else to do. Do not condemn yourself for having the urge or anything else. Just keep chipping away at the habit, a few minutes, hours, or days at a time. emoticon

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*Get to the next meal hungry!
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OOLALA53 : What a great, simple plan .. combined with Spark's healthy eating theory, you may have some up with a winner for me !

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The book and program I am having the best success with in terms of peace with food is not meant for people with eating disorders and the author is the first to say so, but it is helping immensely. It is The No S Diet. There is a book you can buy, but if you have patience and don't want to spend money, most of the ideas are presented for free on a site called Everyday Systems. I read and loved Shrink Yourself and did the online program. I read Geneen Roth 25 years ago. I read and tried to use the principles of most of the big antidiet work, but nothing kicked in until No S. I do think some of the other work helped to make No S stick so far. I've lost only about 10 lbs, but I've gained so much pleasure! I wish for all of us to find peace with food. emoticon

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I've also read "Shrink Yourself" and am doing the program online at www.shrinkyourself.com. It's excellent. Also good--"Runaway Eating". And I have a book about compulsive eating by Geneen Roth coming in from Amazon later this week.

I can honestly say I'm not hating myself for the first time that I can remember, accepting myself and my weight, not weighing myself daily, and eating only when I'm physically (not emotionally) hungry and only until I'm food. I'm not categorizing food as "good" and "bad". I feel that my yo-yoing is finally over.

I lost 70+lbs...and now the hard part, maintaining!


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I just joined. I've been a binge eater my entire life. I'm going to buy this book. I'm in a very sad place right now where I have been out of control for a few weeks now and the weight keeps going up. I have a new solution everytime I end a binge. I sure wish I could get this under control.

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That book sound interesting. Thanks I will have to search amazon.

"I can do all things through Christ who strentheneth me"(PHI 4:13).

"In everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you"(THS 5:18).


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Here's a book recommendation. The title is called Shrink Yourself by Dr. Roger Gould. It's a GREAT book that really seems to get to the heart of why we binge.
It opened my eyes to many things. I've read TONS of "weight loss" books over the many years, but this one is an absolute MUST READ.

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Here is an excellent article on Binge Eating Disorder (BED)provided by the Mayo Clinic. Although it is lengthy it is well worth the read! Highlights include: 1) BED has both biological and psychological causes; 2) BED responds to drug therapies such as SSRIs (normally used to treat anxiety/depression), Meridia & other appetite suppressants, and Buproprion (drug that treats depression as well as nicotine addiction) and 3) BED responds best to Cognitive Behavioral, Interpersonal, and Dialectical Behavior Therapy.

Not everyone who binges have BED, but those who do have it, know that there is help for the condition and talk to your doctor about it. It is very difficult to control on your own and weight loss attempts without having the BED managed well can be disappointing. Hope you find the information helpful!

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thank you so much for those resources!



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Saved it, Thank you.

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emoticon emoticon emoticon Binge Eating Disorder (BED) ~ the experts are still working on defining all of this so different resources give different criteria. From various definitions, perhaps 2% of all people and perhaps up to 25% of overweight people are affected, including people of all ages and also may include both men and women equally.



emoticon Overcoming Binge Eating book by Christopher Fairburn.

The first 1/2 explains all the different kinds of binge eating and degrees and people who do; from normal eating to serious enough to be a part of various eating disorders including anorexia, bulimia and binge eating.

The 2nd 1/2 provides a strategy for overcoming binge eating that some find very helpful.



emoticon emoticon emoticon Normal eating or something to be worried about?

Everyone tends to indulge (over-eat) now and then. That would be considered normal. When it is accompanied by an out of control or compulsive feeling (just can't help myself), that is when it pushes into not as normal.

A very good explanation of normal and disordered eating patterns can be found in the 3 part series here on SparkPeople.

emoticon ARTICLE: WHAT IS NORMAL EATING - PART 2

Excerpt: This article is the second in a series of three that discuss "normal" and abnormal eating habits. (Part one looked at some of the basic characteristics of normal eating.) This article contains a checklist of behaviors and thought patterns that are often associated with disordered eating.

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emoticon SYMPTOMS OF BINGE EATING
www.mirror-mirror.org/symptoms-of-bi
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emoticon BINGE EATING FACTS
www.mirror-mirror.org/binge-eating-f
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emoticon COMPULSIVE OVEREATING
www.mirror-mirror.org/compulsive.htm




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