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Day 11 done and on to day 12!

I have always had the spike of hunger when I start or increase an exercise regimen. Generally I've satisfied that by having a little healthy snack until my body gets used to it.

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Well, I noticed in my thinking tonite this idea that If I'm not losing weight, I might as well eat whatever I want and enjoy unlimited food. So, Instead of grabbing a chocolate cliff bar (yes, anything chocolate is a trigger) I am telling you how I caught my all or nothing thinking. I ate a big dinner, probably more than I needed, but I am not going to seal the deal of misery by adding a desert or 2 on top of it. I have been hesitant to commit to a daily meal plan, but I may need to move in that direction. I am feeling really tired lately, and i know that's a big trigger too. At least I'm staying mostly away from the sugar. Thanks for listening everyone.

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Tenacious, yes, I would say it is likely a very good time to stay patient. Not binging and not gaining is a pretty good spot to be in, at least for now. Give yourself a good bit of time to tread water there before trying to lose more, unless you have a health condition. If you do, there are other parameters to consider.

I will share my understanding of how the body reacts and my own experience. Apparently, if a person has not been exercising for quite awhile, her appetite will often rise when she first begins. However, as time goes on, it either dissipates (there is some evidence that regular exercise gets your body to accept a lower weight so it asks for less food to maintain it) or the person gets better at ignoring it because the other perceived benefits outweigh the knee jerk reaction to give in. If I am eating a reasonable amount of food regularly and I have fat reserves on my body, this food desire is a my lower brain's misperception of need. It will try to get me to feed the body, even though the body has stored energy (a form of sugar in muscles, and in fat) it could draw on. It will ask for food that has given it very concentrated energy with little work before (sweets). BTW, there is also evidence that the brain will keep weight high to accommodate eating concentrated processed food like sweets. It's just a dumb animal. It will try to avoid getting energy from storage, but that is exactly the process we want, though in the least disruptive way. I almost never want more food after exercise now, neither soon after nor hours later. But even if I did, I would probably stick to my regular plan, as I know it is more than enough to take care of my real needs; besides, I still have quite a store of energy in my muscles and under the skin over most of my body! I want to give my body a reason to get at them sometimes. I rarely think that my body wanting more food is a good reason to give it. I'm willing to tolerate different amounts of hunger.

Struggle happens when something is uncomfortable and/or when we are trying to choose between options. It's possible some periods of time being uncomfortable from the lower brain urges are unavoidable, but I can get rid of a lot of struggle when I decide that even if I'm uncomfortable for awhile, I'd rather put up with that and wait for the next meal than keep the tussle going by thinking I might go ahead and appease it with anything. Then I think a bit about something I will like at that next meal and do my best to get involved in something else that will distract me, something pleasurable or productive or both. Not always easy, either, but certainly a better possible psychological payoff than eating and regretting it.

I am in the middle of a project that will distract me but it's not doing anything more fun that riding food desire waves! I'm allowing myself some afternoon coffee. emoticon

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14 days binge free- was gone for a few days. I had a few overeating moments, but I didn't eat any smores or go crazy on sweets. Yay me. I did have a few sweets, but I think because I had exercised a ton that day and my appetite spiked. Does anyone else struggle with that? You start exercising and then it's easier to binge? Im Trying to get back on a good track, but I'm maintaining my weight and not bingeing. All successes. I am still trying to figure out how to lose weight without spiking my perfectionism and binge behaviors. At least I have stopped my constant weight gain. Time to be patient and stay hopeful.

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7/14/20 12:12 P

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Day 10 down and on to day 11.

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day 18 BF done.

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day 17 BF

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Day two binge free

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Hi all!! Lost track and turned my ankle on MOnday, but have been not binged. My nights have been quiet. I ate frozen peaches last night, but not excessive. Soooooo. I will restart on Sunday to count the days. Keep persevering.

I Pledge to forgive myself for the past & keep going no matter how many times I fall. I have the strength and self discipline from the Grace of God & I will give my challenges to the Lord. I WILL HAVE A FRESH START EVERY DAY!!
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Great reflection and strategy, Kathryn. Some programs tell people to say to themselves, "Not my food." I can imagine with families and partners it's harder because food is everybody's in most homes and so available. (I've also heard of college roommate bingers horrified because they actually steal other people's food to binge on. It's a powerful drive, but conquerable!) I was just remembering how my mother used to hide cookies in the linen closet. I also remember going back to that closet and taking a cookie over and over, always telling myself this was the last one.



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Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
ndividual.asp?gid=1323


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I did not buy the sweets I binged on they were given to me and I gave into them. I will face this problem again but next time will put the sweets in a bag in Hubby's room and have them be only for him.

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Some overeating in the morning, but fine in the afternoon. Day 15 BF.

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Day 6 done and on to day 7!

Yesterday went super well and I ate very well. So, I think I'll just keep on keeping on and move forward!

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Finished Day 2 !!!! Working on Day 3

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Day 5 down and on to day 6.

So I ate over my calorie range yesterday, but I definitely did not binge. Just gave in for a craving for a McDonald's shake and fries emoticon

But, back on to my eating plan today. My hubby went out yesterday and stocked up our refrigerator again with healthy food. I've been scrounging the last few days and had very few nutritious options.

So, back to healthy food and I think I'll be back to normal very soon.

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Finished Day 1 !!!! Working on Day 2


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Tenacious, you are too kind.

Sorry, Kitten, it's estimated that a pregnant woman needs only a couple of hundred calories extra a day at most. It's an advantage for mom to eat a high nutrition diet; keeping calories low while eating low nutrition foods is a double whammy thwack up the side of everyone's head! What mom eats shapes the baby's food preferences after delivery. it will help your food preferences, too to aim for high nutrition whenever you eat, too. Humans have been having babies without eating ultra-processed highly-palatable food for, well, forever before the last 50 or so years. I know nausea stinks and a little food can weaken it, but maybe sparkling water? Might be worth a try. Everyone wins with more hydration. You can always go back to other foods, if it's really hard to tolerate. I'll bet there's some right in the fridge or cupboard. emoticon And congrats on another streak going strong!

Good job weakening the binge cycle by stopping, Kathryn! In binge therapy, they teach that there is always at least a tiny gap between stimulus and response. It can seem impossible to stop, but it's not. I have to get better at feeling the stimulus to get impatient when talking to service people, loan officers, and even my accountant, though she and I knew each other before she did taxes. I"m sure I would be mortified if I heard some of the playback on all those taped service calls.

I wonder what it would do if we saw secret video tape of ourselves binging? It probably wouldn't work if the person knew the filming was happening. Except I know I'm getting taped and I still lose it lots of times. I wonder if I could request hearing the tape sometime? They say when people are on shows that video them all the time, the people forget about the camera within a few days. Hmmm, maybe this is my million dollar business idea...

Day 13.

Edited by: OOLALA53 at: 7/8/2020 (23:07)
Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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Day four binge free

Some unplanned eating of candy stopped before it turned in to a binge.

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7/8/20 7:48 P

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Oohlala, I think you would be a fabulous weight loss coach or life coach. For me helping people is what motivates me. I also like organizing things with kids. I found a high school swim coach to do social distancing swim team for a few kids in our neighborhood pool early in the morning. Seeing them play makes me happy.

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Day 3 and 4 done and on to day 5!

I am overeating lately due to pregnancy cravings and nausea that seems to feel better after eating, but I'm not binging and I honestly think the baby must need the extra calories or I wouldn't be feeling this way?

I don't know. Any insight for me on that?

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Finished Day 27 !!!! (while on vacation I racked up the days) Working on Day 1

Just spent 2 hours on a technical problem -- ugh!!! Then realized it was just because I had purposely turned off WIFI on my phone. Duh!

DLP -- Sorry to hear that, but think of all you've done in %'s of non-binge-time. Hang in there. You'll get it again.

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Sorry to hear that, DLP, and thanks for being honest about it. I'm sending you mojo vibes.

I listened to a podcast on bingeing today on which a coach directed listeners to an online calculator to help quantify how much time is caught up in bingeing: planning, getting, eating, and recovering were some of the areas looked at. One of my problems is that I've never found it easy to fill the time freed up. I admitted something like that in the discussion. The coach was very kind about it but kind of said he didn't know what he could offer me. How honest! Instead of looking for some way to sell me on his program, which of course he offers. I think the way he markets it is a little cheesy, but I do like his approach: weight loss follows dealing with the overeating and establishing a self-selected eating routine. He used to be a very successful marketer. so he's using the tactics, but since it is a decent product for a suffering market, so be it.

Day 12?

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Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
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Really struggling the past couple weeks

I do well with exercise since I purchased some free weights but the food has been difficult.


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Such good news! emoticon emoticon

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Completed day 20 and 21! Then onto streak number 3 with day 1, 2 and on day 3 today emoticon

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Good job! (Remember we can be here when you lose faith.)

Having a bit of an early dinner, though not by much. Feeling very content with my meal. I will try to sleep earlier tonight and pray I don’t wake up earlier with more hours to go before I eat. I’ve tried it many ways and found if it is going to hard To wait for the next meal, I would rather it be those early hours. They are not necessarily easy, just easier.

Day 10 BF complete. Kitchen is closed in 42 minutes.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
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Day 5 binge free. Maintained over the 4th, which is awesome. As I have a few more good days, it builds my confidence that I can make new habits, and then I have hope. I am especially proud as I've had some health issues lately causing neuropathy and fatigue. It's important for me not to be eating sugar now and also not bingeing out of fatigue is a real win for me. Happy Day all!

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No socializing today, though I did score a free used George Foreman grill from a local FB group where people give stuff away to neighbors. (or ask for stuff.) There were several people who wanted it but I told my sad [true] story of having two grills burn out on me in the last six months. Cooked/heated my lunch on it outside today!

I also went out midday for different reasons and found myself thinking multiple times to go get this or that food just because I was out and it's a holiday. I saw how often I used the food as an entertainment, which I am not completely against, but now in my life, I want it to be very infrequent and purposeful. But right now, I can't think of any purpose without social events. Calorie-wise, I could fit some in my plan, but find myself spontaneously thinking, "Naah, that's opening a can of worms I'd rather save for something bigger-- and with witnesses." I haven't lost my taste for most of the binge foods, but I have lost some of the sense of their being pleasurable knowing more about "who they are." A pancake with dollop of walnut/cashew butter (along with a fruit sauce I made) and some ketchup on my baked potato were my big holiday thrills today. I'm not saying that in a "poor me" way. They were fun!

Day 9 complete.

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Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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Day 4- binge free. I tried not to make excuses cause it's a holiday. My tennis friends all did a social distancing party that was super fun. It was a Wimbledon spin off so we all wore white and then we played. Hope everyone is having a good 4th.

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Nice job Oohlala,
I am excited to post I am day 3 binge free! It definitely took me some time to work towards that. It's been a crazy couple of weeks and so it makes this win even better. I feel more hope and motivation than I have in so long. Thankful for this group.

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Having dinner. No inkling that anything will make me want to binge, but also feeling it won't matter. The kitchen is closing in 25 minutes. Day 8 complete.

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So close, Kitten! Hope you made it.

Day 7 complete.

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Day 1- no night binging after 9pm


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Feeling food-antsy today. I know the desires don't come from need; in fact, these irritating sensations are as far from true need signals as they come! I will post on Hour Commitment thread, too.

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Day 14 binge free I am on a roll now.

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Day 6 complete. Really enjoying my meals.

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I boxed up all the chocolate and I'm testing out tracking food for this week- proceeding gently and making sure I'm not doing anything that moves toward binge behaviors. Feeling good! Thanks for the support - hope everyone has a good day.

Good move on buying some extra food. I think shortages are a likely in the months to come and having some reserves avoids needless anxiety.



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The paradox: it can become the norm and yet always be a little amazing, too. So glad for you!

I am in the middle of dinner and am very confident I will remain BF today. Day 4 complete.

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Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
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Day 14, 15, and 16 done. On to day 17 :) Feeling good, especially since Saturday was my daughter's and son's birthday party and we had cake, cupcakes, ice cream, and s'more makings. So the fact I didn't binge or just chow down on the chips my mom brought is amazing!

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Tenacious, that was my beginnings. I had a general weekday plan of meals and a firm resolve not to binge, at least on those days. Sounded ludicrous in comparison with having ideal meals and the right calorie count. But I had never been able to stick to those long term and being in a hurry to figure it out had not either. Do people even have a concept of what it means to try to say that they know now the exact right way to eat for five years, 10 years, 20 years, etc.? And they will keep doing it? It just made so much more sense to me to start with something pretty specific that I would not do.

Making a longer trip than I have in months tomorrow to an Indian food store to see if they have really big bags of garbanzo beans. I saw a report that the North American bean crop from last fall was down 37%. I have noticed some much more sparse shelves at places I go to.Garbanzos are my favorites. Indians like them too and I read that they have a fair supply. I am considering getting 25 lbs.! If the store sells bags that big. They are so cheap in big quantities. I know they sell bags of rice that weigh 20 pounds. The beans will last me a year, supplemented with other kinds I will buy of course in much smaller quantities. My place is tiny but I have a small storage room beside my garage. Good incentive to empty out one of the bins the size of Xmas storage. But not the Xmas stuff!

Pretty sure this is day 3.

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So, I'm snacking less and feeling more hungry at the right times. Am still eating more treats than I would like- ideally would dump my cocoa and chocolate chips (I swear it's my antidepressant for covid). Am trying to move toward a do-able, sustainable eating plan. Would also like to move towards losing some weight. More importantly learning that food isn't my entertainment or comfort. In the past I did Intermitant fasting, calorie counting (I'm pretty wretched at tracking though), low carb. I'm sort of afraid to commit to anything yet. For now just not bingeing feels good- even if I'm not moving very quickly towards my other goals.

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Tenacious, you are doing the right thing. You are turning the ship. No shame in taking time. Every minute you would not normally be free of a binge that you are free is a win.

Fair amount of random eating okay. Day 2 complete.

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Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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Am still reposting this great advice to let it sink in: "I can cope with my life, whatever stressors may come my way, without bingeing."

Covid has been such a challenge. Being active is one of my best binge busters and I miss the gym. I do have weights on my back deck, walking, etc, but I am a people person. Am taking some small steps in rebuilding a routine. Today I am going to do a online group class body pump on Les Mills to do weights. I'm reducing binge behaviors, but I am finding I am such a perfectionist, so making little steps feels like failure. That's hard to retrain in my brain. Seeing everyone's successes is really encouraging though.

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I did not binge but Thursday I added an extra serving of lasagna to my daily intake

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Have had a couple of days with a fair amount of random eating, not navigating some schedule changes quite as well as I would like. To my credit I got reminded that I can walk down any aisle in a market and not get triggered. It doesn't occur to me to buy Oreos or a lot of other old binge foods. (Some foods flit in there sometimes, but I'm concentrating on the positive now!) OMGosh, the packages of Oreos I used to eat at one sitting. I decided not to fool myself into buying even unsweetened banana chips. I just do better with most foods that are not dried out versions of themselves. But I leave the door open for raisins, figs, and apricots.

Too hard to figure out what day it is, so let's just call it Day 1 BF complete.

I went out for cherries on sale this morning and ended up visiting two more, but still forgot mushrooms! Apparently, California's C19 cases are going up, so I guess I'll hunker down without them for now. I have so much food in the house that I can't really justify using home delivery.

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Done with Day 13 and on to Day 14

And, I totally agree with the shame cycle! When I was at my heaviest (before I started to have children) it wasn't until I learned to love myself and stop being so hard on myself that I started losing weight. It just started flying off because I stopped eating my feelings and started loving myself.

And if I missed a day at the gym, I shrugged it off and took the next opportunity. If I over-ate one day, I just learned from it and moved on. Because I was happy with who I was, no matter what the weight.

And the pounds just started flying off. I'm not exactly sure what caused me to flip that switch, but whenever my husband gets on me for not sticking to my diet or for not exercising enough, I stand up for myself. I'm fine just the way I am and shaming me is not going to fix it. In fact, loving me as I am is the only way that I will learn to take care of myself.

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"Even if we've already binged, if we don't complete the cycle by shaming ourselves, it is a little less likely we will do it again."

I'm still wrapping my mind around this. I am feeling more hopeful even as my behaviors aren't quite where I want them to be. I can do anything with hope. It was an off week cause I got exposed directly to covid and had to stay in fully another 2 weeks, but I've had a couple binge free days and I'm working on putting 21 days consecutively together. Thanks team. Lots of people are really on it, good job!

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I'll be gone until Jul 6!!!

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Great job!!

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June 23: Day 1: emoticon
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IT'S IMPORTANT TO FORGIVE YOURSELF AS YOU FORGIVE OTHERS.

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I Pledge to forgive myself for the past & keep going no matter how many times I fall. I have the strength and self discipline from the Grace of God & I will give my challenges to the Lord. I WILL HAVE A FRESH START EVERY DAY!!
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Day 11 down and on to day 12! :)

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Lots of helpful thoughts. Day 1 binge free - here I go. I will plan my meals today, but not push to be perfect. Thank you.

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Oolala always thankful when you share more info even things I heard before. Today what I needed to hear and understand was," I can have x food in my next meal" and helpful to have my "meals planned". Just what I needed to hear emoticon and the reminder of the hour commitment thread will be heading there next as I work hard to stop this binge going through my head.

Day four binge free

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Oola in teacher mode warning! Skip this if it's annoying.

Kitten, it's not just you; research shows being harsh and self-punishing in our thoughts after mistakes makes us more likely to repeat them. The shaming is part of a cycle. When we interrupt any cycle at any point, it weakens the chain. Even if we've already binged, if we don't complete the cycle by shaming ourselves, it is a little less likely we will do it again. I don't know if you just stumbled on this on your own, but either way, I salute your insight!

Tenaciousk, I gently suggest you find a way to separate what you call binging and overeating. To succeed at ending both at the same time is atypical. I suspect you feel you have a dark mindset because, as Jol1 implied, you are imagining you have to be perfect really fast. Having one chocolate bar in a day is not a binge, even if it MIGHT be overeating. The problem is it can be very hard to stop at one. But there is a difference between hard and impossible. I can't take away the "hard" for you. It's also hard TO binge, and feel heavy and regretful! Respect yourself no matter which "hard" you choose today.

Especially in the beginning, it helped me to have an idea of what my next meal was. It did not have to be a "diet" meal. At this point, it is more about establishing control than trying to eat in an ideal way. When I was first struggling, I had to think many times, "I know I am having a good meal later. It has some (X food I really like) in it. I had food not long ago. My body can get what it needs from my stores in the meantime. It might be hard to hold out, but I will really be glad if I wait to enjoy that meal." I NEVER said later, "Oh, I wish I had binged," if I held out, no matter how hard it was.

May I also say that it helps if you start imagining that you can cope with your life, no matter how stressful, without binging. I used to binge because I felt like, well, if I can't have things be easy or the way I want, I'll just binge. I thought I had to be able to solve the problems. But many life problems are naturally ongoing. However, you don't have to quit cold turkey. At first, it can just be by delaying it, even by 15 minutes. Yes, you can be reversing binging even when you binge, if you do it the right way. We have a commitment thread for posting when we feel we need to declare that we will wait to eat. It's okay to start small!

Hope this wasn't too much. Without an epiphany, it takes a lot of rethinking and actions to change strong habits. But when we see that our option is living caught by binge foods, we can start gathering our strength. Stick with us, even if you fail! We will still give you big hugs!


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Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
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Also, we really need to get away from "perfectionism". It just doesn't help. So if you binge, best to just start Day 1 again right away. I even try to start the same day, to not postpone it. I have a 0.5 Day if needed! In my opinion, binging never fully goes away, but we can manage it. Hang in there. On this board, Day 1 is revered... A binge is just practically ignored. It's all about percentages anyway.

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Day 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 are all done and on to day 11

For those of you who lost traction or need to start again, my only advice is take it one day at a time and forgive yourself for those mess ups.

If you forgive yourself for your actions, it is much easier to avoid them in the future.

At least that is my experience.

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I know I really need to commit and get started to do binge free living. I feel like I keep putting it off. I've been reading posts here and enjoying connecting with people who struggle with this. I'm wondering about working too many hours and absorbing lots of emotional stress in my job - how do I even start? I feel a bit unmotivated, but then I'll feel bad about myself, but seemingly not enough to make a change. What does binge free living mean? Maybe I'm making this too complicated. The thought of giving up chocolate feels impossible to me right now :) I am noticing my mind has a real hopeless mindset to it, which is weird. I know I'm incredibly disciplined and capable in lots of areas of my life. Why not here? In some ways I do eat lots of healthy food and am active, but I just overeat and stuff. At 46, you can't just get away with that anymore. I am so grateful for this site as I don't know if anyone else understands. What are some tips to break through a dark mindset. Also, I want to acknowledge that I am under extreme pressure - so I don't know about starting anything really difficult, but I do want to get started. Is that just an excuse? Thank for listening, K

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Jol1, you cook for your dog? Hmm, I can see how that might involve more planning than is really relaxing for what is supposed to be a vacation. Do you normally bring food for yourself or just depend on what's available as you go? Yet I also see DH's point.

After being able to keep things together Thursday, I cracked on Friday. Even after all these years, I can be in denial about it until later. And what's funny is if I have even one good day, the binge days feel far in the past.

I can't blame the recent tough days completely on it, but for mostly other reasons, I recently did a purposely temporary eating plan that was very limiting, so it's not surprising to me that the pendulum swung. I am not actually sorry as I think it had some positive effect, too, but I think if I hadn't been at a pretty good place before I did it, it could have wreaked havoc for a long time. Beware the touted cleanses, detoxes, and resets! When I finished this one, I was about three pounds down, but a week after that, my weight averaged half a pound MORE than when I started, and that's where I consider it to be for now. Not going to look for awhile.

Warning! More weight talk (in case anyone gets triggered by it). I weigh for a week at a time, at the turn of the seasons, and then average the total to get that season's weight. I had had a rough time last summer and fall with erratic overeating and I my weight was up a few pounds. Still in my normal range, but up. The start of a new year and decade felt like a good time to make some changes, and commit to being more "ordered." It has stuck and I am down nine pounds, a little lower than the middle of normal BMI, where I was as a not-skinny freshman in high school, and lower than my weight has leveled off in over 30 years. But I don't think I could have done this without years of weaning myself off my CO habits. And loss was not the focus. I hadn't weighed myself since March. Now I won't again until the autumn equinox. But I will stick as closely as possible to my "extended healthspan" eating routine.

Working on day 2 BF.

Edited by: OOLALA53 at: 6/21/2020 (15:08)
Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
ndividual.asp?gid=1323


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Day three binge free

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Finished Day 8 !!!! Working on Day 9

Had a good volunteer event at the Food Bank yesterday. Now have to start thinking about our upcoming road trip.

Tonedtori -- You are right about planning!

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Working on day two binge free

I have my meals and treats all planned for the day.

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emoticon fruit binge!!!!!

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Day 5 was extended to today. Update later in complete.
JOL1KEY2BOL3 plan, and plan some more and think out scenarios with HS help.

I Pledge to forgive myself for the past & keep going no matter how many times I fall. I have the strength and self discipline from the Grace of God & I will give my challenges to the Lord. I WILL HAVE A FRESH START EVERY DAY!!
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Finished Day 6 !!!! Working on Day 7

Feeling stressed, because somehow I have gotten myself really busy. We're also thinking of going on a road trip the week after next and with our older dog, it's going to be hard. I cook for him, but not sure how that will be possible during our trip. Just having doubts, but it is very important to DH, since he has a whole week off. Also the problem of my sore hip. How much will I really be able to do?

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Had an inadvertent change to my meal schedule and I ended up nibbling on tidbits later, which can become mindless. I cut it short and committed to waiting for my evening meal before it got out of hand. Day 6 complete.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
ndividual.asp?gid=1323


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Day 14 binge free streak two

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Day 6 down and working on day 7 today!

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