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7/19/14 9:21 P

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Thanks, I did a search and found the answer. I guess Dr. Krista Varady's book is the same deal.

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7/19/14 9:13 P

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JUDDD - Johnson Up Day Down Day

I believe that it is the same as ADD (Alternate Day Diet), If there are some differences, maybe somebody can explain those.

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7/16/14 12:58 P

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Newbie here. What tis JUDDD? I got the ADD acronym. emoticon

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7/1/14 11:39 P

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For me, I can maintain a weight loss level by doing ADD, but I almost always stall. I can LOSE weight by eating either high carb with extremely limited fats, or higher fat and extremely low carb, my body will not tolerate a mixture of fat and carbs it simply stores just about everything as new fat. My protein levels remain the same regardless of which I'm doing. So now I use JUDDD as a maintenance tool for when I know I'm going to be in situations where I have to eat off plan. I'll do a down day before and after the "event" day and won't gain weight. But when I'm ready to try to lose weight it's either by following something similar to the www.chewfo.com/diets/the-fast-metabo
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Fast Metabolism Diet, OR by staying very low carb. I'm down 22 pounds this go-around, the first 12 came off through JUDDD and then I stalled, then 6 from Fast Metabolism, and now 4 from low carb. I got to goal weight years ago on JUDDD, but my body figured out what I was doing (and I got older and got lazy with the plan, and my son was sick) so this is how I'm doing the plan these days. I don't ever count calories anymore, just watch what I eat and when, oh and I don't eat grains (except steel-cut-oatmeal and sprouted-grain bread when I'm high carb), which helps tremendously. I really enjoy switching between the plans, when you haven't had fruit for 2 or 3 weeks, starting a cycle where you have fruit every 3 hours for the first half of the day feels like a trip to Disneyland.

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7/1/14 5:55 A

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Hi Mary/GoldenAngel. I will definitely look at those options once I get closer to target. I still feel I have another 30 pounds to lose to get back to where I was. I don't want to be back here again ever - this is only the third serious diet I have done in my life - and I never want to have to climb all the way back. I will have to find a way to maintain that I can do, and I will probably have to use a couple of external controls to keep an eye on things too e.g. regular "weigh-ins", something I've never done in my life the past. I'm doing well I suppose:-) I can see the weight loss especially from my face (especially my chin - yay!) but of course feel rather impatient about elsewhere. But still a long way to go. I hope you are making good progress.

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6/27/14 12:44 P

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You raise some good points.
At maintenance you could either go to one or 2 fast days per week or go to a higher calorie DD - as suggested in the book.

I hope you are doing well.



Mary

PS To my old SP friends - It's been a very rough journey... My beloved, healthy, athletic, tall, dark and handsome husband died in August 2012 from a very aggressive cancer... In the many months caring for him I was stressed and didn't "care" anymore, and put back on 30 pounds I had just finished losing... And then I gained even more...

A short, but very sweet, video tribute to this beautiful man:
youtu.be/i2-_1IJdPww


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5/17/14 12:23 P

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Such an important thread!

And I really welcomed different views on this.

My own experience doing this way of eating a few years ago was that, after a time, my body had a strong urge to eat the same every day!!!! It became quite hard to resist, perhaps a form of diet fatigue?!

However, I have re-read Dr Johnson's book and he makes the very good point that because we are surrounded by food in our environment and our genetic make up is "eat" - it IS necessary to find an EXTERNAL form of control for most people.

So - when I come to the maintenance phase - hopefully soon - it is something I will really think about fully. Perhaps I will do 1 or 2 down days a week, for example. Rather than last time, when I just muddled along at the end, and of course gradually put the 30 pounds back on again. Took a long time though!

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5/4/13 3:07 A

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Wow, that sounds tough... i couldn't eat that little the whole time.
I do 500 kcal monday and thursday and the rest i eat whatever i like, i guess between 2000 and 3000 kcal. I do run 3 times a week and play with the kids, so it feels like i need the energy.
So far i lost 0,5 kg a week doing this (4 weeks)...


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5/2/13 9:25 A

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I didn't ever follow the ADD diet, exactly, as written. I modified it. Instead of alternate days UP days and DOWN days (under 500 calories), each week, I had:
2 UP days (enough days): 1200-1500 calories
4 medium days: 900-1199 calories
2 hungry days: 700-899 calories

Once a month or so, I threw in a splurge day (1500-2000 calories; usually 1700 or 1800), but I never binged (over 2000 calories). I tracked calories every day for a year.

I love the calorie cycling strategy of this program, even though I don't wish to eat as VLC (very low calorie) as it advocates.

I lost the weight in about a year (by Sept 2011), and I've been maintaining since then. I no longer do hungry days. I no longer track calories regularly. If I gain 2-3 pounds, though, I track, again, for 3-7 days, and that takes the weight back off. And, I might add a few other strategies back in for awhile -- no aspartame for a couple of weeks, more days with green smoothies, less dairy and meat, etc. But, those can be temporary, and, after that, it's mostly back to 2 "enough" days and the rest medium days.

I did add 3-4 pounds that didn't come off when I started peri-menopause about a year ago, but, I've been able to hold the weight gain to that, and take additional gains off as they surface.

I expect I will follow this for the rest of my life. So, yeah. Works long term for me.

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2005-2009: 185 lbs. Some minor yo-yo-ing.
2010/Sept: 180 lbs; Waist 46"
2011/Jan 1: 160 lbs; May 22: 133 lbs for DD's wedding
2012/Jan 1: 119.8 lbs; May 1 117.2 lbs
2013/Jan 1 - 121.2 lbs
Monthly wt is in my SP intro

Reached 118 lbs for about 6 months;have gained.
Goal range: 107-118 lbs/W31.5. Under 123 OK


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4/28/13 3:34 P

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Thanks for your feedback. At a time of grieving, I believe you should do what makes you feel better, not put your body though stress.
I also found i eat a bit more on my eating days.
My goal is really to try to eat healthy - but a good amount - on the eating days, but not binge.
A small treat, but no binging. But, one thing at a time. Fist I'll get the habit of 5:2 going.

You're right in joining a group for dealing with your loss. I hope you get all the support you need.
All the best.



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4/26/13 10:56 A

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Tea drinker -
I've never heard of the 5:2 diet - so I looked it up and found this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5:2_diet

So if what you are doing is working for you - that looks like a very good plan, and one that would be fairly easy to keep up long term. Once you hit goal you could even do 6:1 - if you are eating healthy on the other days... but if weight starts to creep back - you have your answer...

I was in a yahoo group with researchers (mostly male) who were all personally following a strict form of IF - fasting 3 days a week - many of them completely fasting all day for those days. They got enormous health benefits from that...

BUT - some research came out that once a person was at goal for a long while, it was detrimental to keep up that form of fasting 3 days a week/36 hours, etc.

I believe the reason is that once there is no excess fat to burn, a person starts to eat even more on the eating day, in order to get sufficient calories. These extra large meals caused an insulin spike that wasn't healthy, as a lifestyle.

At maintenance - a person could get many benefits from a strict fast once a week - or something like the 5/2 plan you are on. You would have to assess at that time.

After my husband died, I found that when i did ADD strictly, I would have a big binge after a week or 2 on ADD. Plus, it seemed to aggravate the intensity of the grieving process. In fact, I am on a widows support group and they said this is the time to nurture myself - not go into deprivation -so my weight loss efforts have to keep that in mind right now.

So, I am needing gentler approaches right now. However, since I do have the asthma bugging me again, I may eventually take up ADD... But I am hoping that weight loss will help the asthma, too.

Mary

PS To my old SP friends - It's been a very rough journey... My beloved, healthy, athletic, tall, dark and handsome husband died in August 2012 from a very aggressive cancer... In the many months caring for him I was stressed and didn't "care" anymore, and put back on 30 pounds I had just finished losing... And then I gained even more...

A short, but very sweet, video tribute to this beautiful man:
youtu.be/i2-_1IJdPww


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4/26/13 10:07 A

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That works at first, it is when you get to a plateau that counting calories comes back into play. I have never done the counting calorie thing on my eating days. I am not that into the weight thing as much as the health benefits. That is one thing that this can do for you end asthma or autoimmune diseases even allergies will go away.

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4/26/13 8:48 A

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Wow. 5 years!
And no ill side effects i take it?
Hmmm... counting calories is exactly the stuff i want to avoid, which is why i find this diet so appealing.
On my eating days i eat whatever i like, including cake and stuff... it seems to work so far.

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4/26/13 6:00 A

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I have not yet gotten to goal, but have been doing this way of eating for over five years. Counting calories on your eating days is the best way to break a plateau. I am losing weight fasting three days a week and with no food three days I eat less on the other days.

Monica
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4/25/13 8:18 A

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Hi all!
I've just started - not the alternate day diet but the 5:2 diet. I fast monday and thursday, i find doing more is too much.
I'm only on my third week and have lost 2 kg (4 pounds), it feels good and i'm happy with it.
I'm just wondering how this diet works long term. Has anyone been on it for a long time here? I would love to hear your experiences.
-Is there a time when you get tired of the diet?
-What do you to when you get to plateaus and the weight stands still for months (does that happen?)
-What do you do when you reach your target weight?
-Are there any "side effects" you noticed after doing it for a long time.
I guess in this forum everyone would be pretty positive to the diet, but have you had any bad experiences or heard of any?
All the best to you!

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