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HTENIGMA - your back I hope you continue to show up and let us know how you are coming along.

I know it's been hard on most of us at one time or another, but that old saying what doesn't kill us makes us stronger is OH SO TRUE. We just have to re-arrange our goals and maybe out outlook in life and even if we have to make touch decisions that affect our way in life we can find a way to come out fine. It's when we give up and let life take control of our dissensions that we loose our way. I am not preaching lord knows that, but I am saying if you need help, perhaps just talking here can help out. It's sometimes easier to tell a stranger, and as we listen we become friends.

This team could act as a shoulder. I know my horses throughout time have been my shoulder. There have been times I felt so lost I could scream and when I was in the barn through the tears and the faces of the horses I have found my way back and been able to face obstacles. If I was not luckily enough to own a horse I could run to I would do the next best think which would be to find a way to what is offered here. A group of horse lovers and join in.

So if you feel the need to talk ...I am here and so are others willing to listen.

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HTENIGMA I'm sorry to hear you had such a rough year. I started taking lessons again last summer, well worth it.

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Way to go! Have a great day!

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I am off to a good start I went from 290 to 283 - not a lot but a good start.

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Rachel,

Thanks for the pat on the back. And for your pony it's awesome that she is jumping. And I am not sure 15 or 20 lbs would hurt a solid well built pony or horse. However I gained 70 lbs but if I can get down 50 I will be happy and my guy can carry me fine at that weight. He won't be doing any jumping or long workouts, but if I start with our routines at only 30 minutes a day and build into an hour then so on after a good 30 days he will be back to his old self. He loves trails, loves the attention he gets while in service but not so sure he loves the tedious routine that goes into dressage. He does it...but after a while I think he gets tired of the same old same old so we would also head out down the road in different directions. Sometimes alone and sometimes with others. He is really a good boy for a Stallion and is well behaved when on his back. How long have you been riding?


Scarletfern : I am with you, my balance is just not there anymore. I spent years breaking and working horses, but after shattering my knees and getting the surgery withing a few days a truck hit my car and I pressed the break with my right leg. I broke that foot and leg in 17 different places and laid up in traction for 8 months then went through physical therapy for another 4 months. They were not sure I would walk because I snapped my Achilles heal but I am walking and doing it without any restraints. And believe it..that new right knee help up like a champ. Unfortunately I did not get to bend it to the 90 degree angle that it needed to be and because of that they healed and only bend about 45 degrees both of them. So I can't stoop, I have a hard time lifting it up and over anything let along a horse. My husband did build me a mounting block but I found out while I laid there in traction my weight pilled on and when in the saddle I can't correct a horse properly. If I hit my ankle against the saddle or horse I have sharp pains from the nerves shoot through my leg. So my training days are over, and so far so has my riding days. I gave up depressed because I was so limited. I did get into the saddle a few times because of my screaming granddaughters but only keeping inside an arena area. And well I can no longer ride a horse that might test me. I do have 3 old faithfuls still around that know me enough to be push button and they are the ones that I want to get back on but I want to go down the road and through the woods and the river beds...just good old fashion trail riding. So I am hoping if I get down 50 lbs...I will work on myself along the way and hopefully build some strength and balance. But pushing 80 is hard to do that, I will give it my best shot. I truly miss it so much.

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P.S. I was so embarrassed getting back in that saddle a couple of years ago. I taught all my children to ride and their children to ride, and there I was with my granddaughter using a lunge line having me go around in a circle until I felt comfortable enough for her to let go. To give me credit through, I was not on a safety horse I was on her Arabian NSH and she is a witch at times. But, she did very well for me that particular day, I just didn't trust her enough to keep it up. (haha) and that stinking girl took photos and posted them on her facebook. My oh my.

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Hyatt and HTEnigma, so sorry for all you are dealing with! I hope all home repairs are done soon with minimal issues and no more unauthorized charges!

I gained the 15 pounds ack again, but lately my pony has been behaving, so maybe my weight wasnít the issue.

A couple of weeks ago I had a lesson where I was jumping her more than I had in a long time. Fences were tiny, but there were many of them. She was blowing so badly after the lesson was over. I had to walk her out forever to get her breathing back to normal. If that isnít an indication I need to lose, I donít know what is.

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First, I am feeling for you all that drama going on in your life. For your husband committing suicide and leaving you with all that on your shoulders, he is an ass. Sorry to say that but its how I feel. I too had a very bad year in 2019. Bought a home in Vegas three years ago spent over 90,000 to redo the bathrooms and some updates. Last January I arrived in Vegas to find out I had a backup with one of the pipes. I called Rooter Man Plumbing. They came out fixed it for 250.00 then told me I had another problem under the foundation. They wanted to bring out a specialist to take a look at no additional cost. They came back the following morning telling me that my main waste line was disconnected from the street line and that waste was dumping under my foundation. The cost would be 4200.00 to dig under the foundation and replace 8 to 10 feet of pipe. I agreed and they went to work, about 6 hours later they came back telling me that there was a sink hole about 10 deep and they could not get to the line without tearing into the flooring and that to fill the sink hole and the floor...it would cost 18,000.00 but guaranteed that the insurance would pay for it. My insurance does not cover plumbing I told them but agreed to the 18,000.00 because they claimed that my house was about ready to give way and fall into the sink hole. I had to evacuate my house for about 5 days while they could do the work. I put my dogs in boarding and went to a local hotel for the time. While in the hotel I received an email telling me that I had opened 2 credit cards in the amount of 70,000.00 for work on my house. I called the credit companies and told them I did not authorize that amount or for any cared to be open and not to hand it out. Too late it was already gone the same day it was open the same day they went to work on my house. I called and could not reach anyone at ROOTER MAN so I went over to the house where I found my house had been gutted...not one but 7 rooms had been destroyed. All the marble flooring was torn up, the custom wood in the hall way torn up and all three bathrooms had been gutted down to the 2X4s. I was raving mad and all I got was that they found asbestos and had to have it removed. Are you frigging kidding me I screamed I just had all the redone and there was no asbestos in any of the walls and they don't put asbestos on top of a concrete foundation. They said they had to take an advancement to pay for the specialist to come in and remove it with a hazmat team. Of course I stopped all work locked up the place, filed charges for fraud, and found a lawyer that I had to pay out of my pocket not to mention I had to find a new place to live. I could not find a rental that wanted to take on 2 dogs the bully breed kind without forking out 6500.00 a month. Since nothing was settled by then I decided to go ahead and buy a second house. Much cheaper than renting and a large lot for the dogs. Meanwhile it's been a year this month and I am still not able to repair my original home. I need to let it settle until all this is finished and over with. And now came the topper...the frigging company actually sent me a bill for 324,000.00 claiming I owe them, because they billed my insurance and nothing was covered. And just because I fired them I am still obligated to pay them for the work they already did. I am so in rage over all this but I plan to follow through unless I run out of money first.







Just a few of the photos to show you I am not BSing in any form of the word. So when I tell you I understand a rough year I mean it.

Nice you have your boy in training I hope he turns out great. How old is he? Glad to see you back...and we can work on getting healthier together. I too let it all go last year but I am back and I need to drop 50lbs also so I can get back in the saddle this spring.

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I am completely out of shape and completely a slug right now. I'm at least 50 lbs over, maybe 60. Finally going to do something. Have been mentally fried this last year - husband committed suicide, kid was in college, he left all assets to her. Had to do structural repairs to the house, and it's just been a big ball of stress. Also trying to refi the house with him off of it on a single income. Hoping for appraisal next week. The scale shows this.

Other personal issues - asthma, allergic to horses, hay, etc., and limitations in range of motion. Stretching is going to be critical.

The thing that I did RIGHT, however, was to put my boy in training. Trainer has a percheron that I can ride for lessons and stuff until I get my core back, and my legs back. Going to try to start that with lessons twice weekly next week. I'm not too heavy for my draft cross. But he's green, and I need to be able to be strong enough to be controlled enough to be clear on my cues.

Thinking keto and IF. Anybody had success with this?

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Start the day off right:

Oatmeal and Rye toast for breakfast. Going to keep it down so I can get down. I need that 50lbs off me before spring.


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This is ME - to heavy for my horses. I have gained so much weight I am afraid to get on them. I am back in Las Vegas for the winter away from my farm and the cold weather of Michigan. I am going to take special care to loose weight this year. I know I said that all the time but this time I am going to give it my undivided attention starting with quitting PEPSI...that is one of my biggest downfalls.

I have many changes to make over the next few weeks...but starches and pepsi will be my first and foremost accomplishments.

Looking forward to getting back in the saddle come spring when I return home.

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So I am down about 16-17 pounds. I don't know how much difference that makes, but I started riding the Chincoteague again. I spent a few months working on the POA and one of the school horses at my barn trying to at least be a softer and calmer rider. Not sure if it's the weight loss or the work, but she's being much more agreeable lately - even in the extreme heat. I'm even considering trying Intro C with her at the next dressage show (I'm not sure if I've lost enough weight to consider jumping her again).

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I too feel that I am too big for my horses. I have been having kids and nursing them for the past few years so I do not have the strength and balance I used to so with the extra weight I just don't think it is fair to climb on and bounce around on the poor things. lol I plan on leading them all over with my kids on them so they start to get back in shape while I lose some padding. My goal for what I feel is a good weight for me is to shed about 100 lbs give or take. With the 20% rule I need to lose 30 to 40 lbs for the two horses, to ride bareback. The third horse is retired and a bit smaller so she doesn't come into play.

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4/16/17 1:30 P

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It always amazes me how much weight a horse can carry- but we also must remember that the horse's back must be strengthened to hold that weight- they were not designed to carry weight on their backs! A suggestion- take time to work them on lifting their backs while on a lunge line while you work on yourself. Will Faerber's Art2Ride webpage is a great resource for that. www.art2ride.com/

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I have always loved riding horses built like me - short and stocky. My POA is 13.2 and I've never felt like she has trouble with my weight. She's built like a tank. I used to jump her with no qualms. The Chincoteague is a whole other story though. I remember when she was a baby I feared she would never grow big enough for me. I convinced myself once she was backed that she could handle it. I have gained quite a bit in those 7 years since I first got on her though.

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Interesting. My trainer once said 30%. I am clueless about how much my horse weighs. Basic research about ponies her size suggest she's around 600 pounds. If 30% is accurate, then I still have a few pounds to play with. If it's 20%, then I really do need to lose. I use a Wintec saddle on her because it's lighter than a leather saddle and I hope that eases some of the burden.



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I just feel that I am too heavy to ride, either for me or for the horse. I want to and need to feel more athletic. If I ever do get a horse again, I am thinking of getting a sturdy pony type if I can, maybe something like a Fjord. But for now, I want to feel light and strong because I want to do some beginner dressage in the spring.

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I found your answer here http://www.horsechannel.com/horse-experts/
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what is says is a horse can carry comfortably no more than 20% of its wt. So my horse is 1100 and my saddle wts. 30 lbs. I wt. 170. My horse can take 220. SO I can't get any bigger!
This 20% rule was adopted by the US calvery in the 1920"s. Was scientifically looked at in 1980's.
My suggestion if your meeting the 20% you need to get off the sweet horse and spend some eyeball time with her. Groundwork. I LOVE my sweet mare. Due to surgeries (I am now cancer free for 4 yrs this month because of my mare bucking me....YAHOOO!) I had to spend ground time with her. I really got to know her good. My sweet mare has cramps a few days before she comes into full heat. I would have never known that if it hadn't been for the time on the ground. To her a cinch on those days is like putting a tight belt over your own belly with cramps! I learned much more about her doing groundwork exercises too but much much more about me. I learned I wanted to not disappoint others more than paying attention to what Dreamer was trying to tell me.
I've always been told if you find an issue in the saddle get down and fix it. I add to that I must "Get down and fix it with leadership, love, politeness (I say thank you and please out loud. It helps me to not go negative with my attitude.)
So your answer is 20%.... I am going to try very hard to loose my 14% FAT which puts me at 146 lbs. NOW that sounds like a plan for me. Maybe I should run and walk around the ring like I get Dreamer to do for 30+ mins 3 to 4 times a week. I might look crazy but by golly I bet i'd loose that fat accumulating everywhere on me. ha!


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Hi there,

To answer your question - you are not alone! I am doing "the Spark thing" to lighten up for my horses too (and for myself). Not necessarily for behavior issues, but just because I know I'm too heavy to be riding my daughter's 13*3 hh Arabian.

I don't have much advice to offer right now - and I'm not sure if losing the weight will help. If she has learned she can chump you (regardless of reason) she may continue to do it just to get out of work. Do you do groundwork exercises with her? How well does she behave otherwise? (on the ground or with another rider)

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Is there any one out there who is doing the Spark thing to lighten the load for your horse?

My Chincoteague Pony is barely 13 hands and she's not particularly heavyset. She is normally quite sweet, but she's a pony mare and has that stubborn streak in her. Lately she has become impossible for me to ride. She sometimes gets fussy if I ask her for advanced moves, but lately she will plant her feet and refuse to move forward asking for fairly simple tasks. If I use a whip, she just bucks and continues to refuse to move forward until we have argued for a while. She doesn't seem to be trying to get me off, but I'm afraid if she does get me off, she will learn that she can and it will be all over.

I have decided to take a break from her and work on my riding skills on other horses. I was having a discussion about this with my trainer. I said it was really frustrating because I remembered how a couple of years ago I was having a great lesson and doing some fairly advanced work and some of my friends comments how great I looked on her and how I rode her better than anyone.

Trainer's response: "Have you gained weight since then?"

Truth be told I'm about 15-20 pounds heavier.

I can't say for sure this is the reason why my horse is becoming unrideable for me (and according to the trainer not for anyone else) but it's the only reason I can think of. I'm quite sort and my exces weight is fairly well distributed, so I may not look too fat for her, but 150 pounds is probably a lot for a horse her size.

Now I have motivation. I love my pony. She is my pride and joy and I have been working with her since she was a tiny foal. We have always been a team, but she's useless to me if I can't ride her.

Does anyone else struggle with this? Did losing weight help your riding and your horse's attitude?

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