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1/20/15 9:04 P

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I use Nike+ which is probably as accurate as MMR. When running HM's I notice it overreports by up to .5mile. I have read that this is due to the way official courses are measured. Official measurements account for all the tangents, while most runners in the race don't have the luxury of running every tangent unless you're leading the pack. Most of the time, the rest of us are navigating through throngs of people.

I like seeing the cum data, and comparing results over time, but I also appreciate the mile-by-mile voice feedback when I'm not running an official race.

That being said, I have a lot of gadgets. I have a FitBit for HRM and activity tracking, Nike+ for GPS and voice feedback on pace running off my phone because I always run with it to ensure I can call for help. I have a battery backup because apps/music bleed battery in about 2.5 hours.

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1/19/15 10:24 P

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I wondered if it was my phone, too. But my best friend and my fiancee both had reliability problems, and the app remained inconsistent when I got a brand new shiny phone. MMR is the worst.

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1/19/15 7:44 P

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I've never used MapMyRun but it has a good reputation. It's possible that the phone is to blame rather than the app. I had a problem once with my GPS app (Strava). I tried reinstalling and some other things but the app still didn't work. So I installed a different GPS app (Runtastic) and got the same wildly inaccurate measurements, too. At that point, I knew it was the phone that was at fault. I reset the GPS part of the phone and everything was good again.

I'd love to say that Garmins don't ever require resetting but alas, that isn't the case.



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1/19/15 5:02 P

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In my experience, MapMyRun is totally, wildly inaccurate. And it suffers from accuracy entropy; the longer you run, the less accurate it gets. I run with MMR and my Garmin most days, just because MMR has voice feedback and I need to know what time it is in the mornings. I've seen a difference of anywhere from .25 mile to 5 miles on longer runs. When I was marathon training, I did what I know was a 22 mile run (both because of my Garmin and because I live in a town with one road). When I got home, MMR claimed I'd run 27 miles. I would suggest getting a Garmin for half-marathon training or above. Or use one of those apps that are more accurate - apparently they exist!

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1/18/15 10:33 A

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I regularly run an 8M loop with a friend. I use an app (Strava) on my iPhone while he uses his Garmin. We both get 8.0 to 8.1 when we are done, every time. We are both very happy with this level of reliability.

The difference between the two is a matter of what you want:

- My friend wants to check his pace frequently so a cell phone would be inconvenient.

- I just want to see the final distance (and calorie estimate) at the end so a Garmin would be overkill.




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6/15/13 2:13 P

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i like using both. the garmin is more accurate but not by much. the nike+ app on the phone provides more encouragement. the iphone app also tracks the miles you put on on one set of shoes so you can change them based on mileage. i like using the heart rate monitor with the garmin since i can tell how hard im pushing my heart.

i also have the 410.

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6/10/13 11:50 A

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I've got a forerunner 410, and I've been pretty pleased with the accuracy. The phone (Nike+ app on an iPhone) wasn't bad, but there were occasional flubs that I didn't see with the watch. The most telling was when we did a 30k training run through some odd industrial and fairly isolated areas in the city. I decided to run both my watch and my phone app to compare the two, and my phone clocked me at 39k by the end of it. The inaccuracies weren't too bad when I was looking at runs under 10k in familiar areas, but it's not something I'd want to deal with on very long runs in unknown territory.

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6/9/13 7:03 P

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I love my Garmin Forerunner 10. It's a basic model but, it has all the bells and whistles that I'll ever need. GPS, mileage, pace, calories burned, etc. It doesn't have a heart rate monitor but, I was willing to sacrifice that option.

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6/7/13 1:48 P

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TAMIMHOFF,

Probably a good idea. I bought a lot of features that I never use. Comfort and ease of use for what you need should get the highest priority.


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Thanks! I decided on the 210. I read up on the 305 but also read a few reviews (a Runner's World and DCRainmaker, plus a couple I don't remember) that highly recommended the 210 for its simplicity ~ seems to do what I would want (HR, pace, distance, records map of run you can d/l later) without the extra stuff the 305 does that I probably would never use.

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6/7/13 1:07 P

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Hi TAMIMHOFF,

I do not have a cell phone because there is no service around my home, but I do have a refurbished Garmin Forerunner 405 and a 310 XT. Both have features that I will probably never use because there is a bit of a learning curve and I am mentally lazy. But I use one or both every day and have measured them against known distances. They are incredibly accurate. For my purposes, I prefer the 405. It's less bulky, but it has a touch bezel that gets quirky when wet. The 310 XT is bulkier but easier to use and waterproof. You can wear it in a triathlon. You can find this with a heart rate monitor here: http://www.feedhungrypet.com/product/?id=1
106764 or without the HR, here: http://www.oakale.com/products/Garmin-Fore
runner-310XT-Waterproof-Running-GPS-wi
th-USB-ANT-Stick-%252d%252d-0O0025IXJ5
X98.html . That is where I bought mine. If you are interested in the 405, you can find a refurbished one with HR and ANT Stick for less than $150 if you search. All that being said, If I could afford it, I'd prefer a more expensive model with touch screen controls.



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Against measured races of various distances, my Garmin Forerunner 305 is always almost spot on. Any differences are easily within tolerances for failing to run the tangents on my part.

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6/7/13 12:33 P

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I love my garmin watch. I've run "certified" half marathon courses and usually it reads anywhere from 12.9 to 13.2 miles for the race, so I think it is pretty accurate.

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Great question - I look forward to hearing the other runners input

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6/7/13 12:00 P

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Is the GPS-enabled Garmin any more accurate than the GPS-enabled phone apps? I have been using the Map My Run app to run around my neighborhood, and it says I've been running a 3.25 mile training run. I'd read a few places that the apps sometimes aren't very accurate with distance, so I plotted my run into the Map My Run website map, and it came back as only 2.5 miles. Rather disheartening.
I wouldn't mind buying a Garmin, but on the other hand, I don't want to spend a few hundred dollars on something that isn't any more accurate than my phone is.

Thoughts?

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