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6/3/20 5:36 P

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Hope to see you on the June chat! You sure perked up from the other day. Is this a new plan?

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
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Still here and poking around, LOL

I am LOVING my new plan and guidelines! I will ride this train as far as it will take me!

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6/2/20 10:31 A

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Hey Oohlala, here's something I found via iTrackBites in the IF community there.... if you have a phone and like phone apps, the IFers on ITB highly recommend the free app called LIFE Fasting Tracker. Not only is it fee, it is also entirely customizable, and also has a resource library, tracking lots of things, import activity data, and also a social connection portal. Just in case it is something which you might enjoy, I thought I would tell you about it. Look for it where you usually download apps to your phone. LMK if you do and like it.

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Restart June 1st; chose to follow WW old PointsPlus plan
Using the awesome FREE app, iTrackBites
Also IF 12-15 hours per day
Homebound, disabled, mobility challenged, but not giving up!


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I'm still IFing a minimum of 12 hours a day--usually it's 13 to 15. I haven't eaten yet today because I'm simply not interested in food this morning.

I'm utilizing a free phone app tracker, iTrackBites, which has 6 different plans, 4 of which are free. I'm checking out a few of them--one at a time of course. ITB also has a community chat feature, which I'm also checking out. (I forget... are you doing Keto? One of the 2 pro plans is Keto. The pro plans are the paid ones, but even at that it is only $36 for a year, and yesterday I hit a sale and got the pro plan for $20! Anyway, it's a great app if you do any tracking or want to do on your phone, assuming you might have one.)

But I've definitely decided my best approach is relaxed and unplugged. As long as I am making good choices the majority of the time and not going off the rails, and following some very minimal, basic guidelines (via the phone app), I'm letting it just be a daily adventure and see where it takes me.

And Sparkpeople? I'm just not sure how connected I can get here.....

WOW! ...finding my weigh towards Winning Our Weigh!
Restart June 1st; chose to follow WW old PointsPlus plan
Using the awesome FREE app, iTrackBites
Also IF 12-15 hours per day
Homebound, disabled, mobility challenged, but not giving up!


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5/29/20 8:53 P

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I get it. What's funny is that Spark is a stress reliever for me. I used to sneak onto the site in my first years of weight loss during the workday when I was still teaching between classes, sometimes in class when I should have been looking at kids' papers, or when I had prep time for IEP meetings( I was a Spec Ed teacher. ) It was a really hard job for me and just checking in where I felt I had some control would give me the break I wanted. But I spent and spend too much time on here sometimes. However, this May, I decided I could not go online before I open my eating window unless I was following a workout video or had background on while I do housework. It's worked out well.

Sorry you're feeling discouraged. Not long ago it sounded like you had reached a bit of mental equilibrium over the whole issue. Do you think you were secretly believing you were going to lose and are disappointed that you haven't? Yet if you can't see anything reasonable to do to make the change, it can be very hurtful to be down on yourself for it. It seems all you can do is eat to support your health as well as you can.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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5/29/20 2:57 P

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Sorry I've been MIA. Stress. Jewish holiday prep. Ongoing studies. Etc. Life.

I'm still keeping to a minimum 12 hour fasting cycle per day. Sometimes more.

And I am discouraged as all get out.

I get coming to an empty team. We can chat via SparkMail anytime. I'll watch for your note.

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Restart June 1st; chose to follow WW old PointsPlus plan
Using the awesome FREE app, iTrackBites
Also IF 12-15 hours per day
Homebound, disabled, mobility challenged, but not giving up!


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5/25/20 2:00 A

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Went 18 hours last night; I wasn't terribly hungry when I ate, but didn't want to repeat last week when I went nearly 24 hours on Sunday and then had a pendulum swing compulsive eating day on Tuesday. Since I ate around noon, I wasn't that hungry before I closed my window at 6, but I did NOT want to be hungry at night. Last night I felt really full after dinner, but then felt later like I hadn't been full at all. Where did it go? Am I ever going to be consistently fat adapted? It's not as if I don't have fat on my body. And I know I am sometimes in deficit, so why won't the body get out those ketones! Sigh



Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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5/24/20 1:00 A

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Was out very early doing errands before a couple of stores got too crowded and took long walk in pretty cemetery so it was time then to open my window. Got first takeout in months (and not much of that in 2020) and decided to just nosh on that and some fruit for the day and a little dark chocolate. I still had leftover noodles because they serve so much. I divided them into two portions and froze them separately. I was determined not to let this deviation from my regular eating send me into WTH.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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5/22/20 11:42 P

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Boy was I hungry for my opening meal. I even felt a little hungry for closing one, too. I was glad to get hungry for dinner. Wouldn't mind a little less hunger in the morning, but that's ok.

I am experimenting having a longer eating window on weekends. I want to be able to do it without eating what my mentor calls joylessly. At some point, I like to think I could fast for 12 hours overnight, eat a decent--sized breakfast, very light midday nosh, and a dinner to be done at 12 hours, then longer fasts spaced out, not daily. This is what Valter Longo recommends. I'd like to think I could be flexible, but that might be asking a lot. We are creatures of habit, not just hunger.



Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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Failed at keeping to my fasting window yesterday. A lot of nibbling. Eating even late at night which I have done very little of in the past 10 years. Is it subtle rebellion? In any case, I'm back to it today.

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Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
ndividual.asp?gid=1323


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A tiny bit scary that I've done more nibbling today after a 24-hour fast the previous day. I wouldn't say it was a binge, but I definitely felt fuller at dinner time, yet didn't want to skip dinner and then start the cycle with late night hunger. I will go back to opening my window at 10 a. m. tomorrow.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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I assumed you would get an email notice regarding my comment on your Sparkpage, but I guess that would be true for any comments I make here; however, here, I may or may not make a specific reference to you, so you may not be inclined to open the email soon. I let some alerts go from Spark. I get a lot! And today it's kind of irking me that I still spend so much time on it all. But aging isn't for sissies, and the repercussions can be...unsettling. Don't want to bring you down, but I just spent about a half an hour looking at stats and info on long term care for seniors. Enuf said about that.

I am so glad for you that you are feeling more of a sense of peace with something between heroic efforts and a descent into nearly pure compulsive eating. I don't know if you've ever heard of Geneen Roth, whose ideas I used to be in love with without actually really doing what she said. (She is mostly of the mind that our compulsive eating is driven by reaction to dieting and careening between self-soothing and self-hatred; modern brain science shows that it might be part of it but isn't the only source, blah blah blah>) In any case, it was en epiphany for her to realize at some point there was something else besides starving herself and binging. She has turned that and intense self-analysis, public "confession," and eventually meditation and a branch of spirituality into a multi-million dollar business with retreats that people gush over after paying I think about 5,000 bucks a week. But people pay that or more for vacations and don't come home feeling like they've unknotted past pain. But I have my doubts about long term efficacy.

I think I'm the only familiar face here much. I would never want to obligate anyone to come, and I'd certainly like to stay in touch with you. I wonder if we might do better with Sparkmail? I have to say I'm not really committed to keeping this team going. I stepped in as an experiment when it needed a leader but I already lead other teams, as you have seen. Two have at least a few people regularly sharing, though even there, people overlap.

So, I made a shift today as well. I made it to 24 hours yesterday feeling real hunger only about the last hour and ate a relatively normal meal, finishing in about an hour. I was hungry when I woke up around 6 and decided I was not going to do mental gymnastics and driven tea-drinking to try to make it until 10, so I ate. I did feel a little bit of compulsion to eat a bigger meal and did a bit, but it's over now. I'm not sure how I'll handle the rest of the day except that I will definitely close my window at 6 p.m. by the latest. I hope to go back to 16:8 at least a few days a week naturally, and the other days have a longer eating window with discrete meals, not permasnacking.

Hope your business last week wasn't over unpleasant stuff. I have some this week. Sometimes being an adult is over-rated...

Edited by: OOLALA53 at: 5/18/2020 (11:51)
Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
ndividual.asp?gid=1323


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5/18/20 11:16 A

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p.s. I just now saw your comment on my Spark Page. Thank you for the note. I don't go to my Spark Page very often, so I almost missed seeing it.

I haven't stopped anything; I've just reset my attitude, and I've relaxed guidelines that were too inflexible. I can no longer afford to be all or nothing at all. It just doesn't work in the long term.

I've been quiet because last week turned out to be a busy one and I simply couldn't get back onto Spark until this morning.



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Also IF 12-15 hours per day
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5/18/20 11:05 A

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How did you do yesterday?

I backed off from pushing myself, and boy has that worked out for me! I don't mean in terms of zippity do dah big weight loss. I no longer care about that. It always carries a big rebound price tag with it. For now, I am sticking with my easy does it plan. I am committed to going 12 hours from last meal of the day to first bite next day. Usually I go more, but only because I now eat the next day when my body tells me I am hungry and not because the clock tells me to.

I've listened to a lot of fasting experts and MDs and PhDs and read tons of books and studies about fasting, but it all comes down to what works for me. When I force myself, it just doesn't work long term.

In the past, I did gain weight when i wasn't careful or strict, but now I believe that's because I was still in the mindset of all or nothing at all... either I am following strict rules of some eating plan, or all bets are off and I eat anything any time. Clearly, neither of those two options work for me.

So I've switched up over the past couple of weeks. This relaxed pace of learning to trust my body is working so much better for me.

I also stopped weighing daily. I have one set day a week to weigh, and one optional day 3 days later if I really think it's important. I refuse to be defined or ruled by those numbers on the scale. Lasting, healthful weight loss, for me, must be part of a more natural eating process, and a very slow downward trend. I'm not going to see big drops like I have in the past, but I'm also not going to see the big gains that nearly always followed. Plus, with going to once a week, I don't obsess over the natural fluctuations like I used to.

I am also learning to accept that if I don't lose any more weight, I'm okay.

I think a really major turning point for me was last week. I wish I could post date a Spark blog entry.

Anyway, good to check in for a minute and see familiar faces!


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Also IF 12-15 hours per day
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5/17/20 7:32 P

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I was annoyed at myself for having gone into a few stores last weekend because Friday night, I had a scratchy throat. I started my preventative measures, ones that I had to use over and over in March because I'd get lax when symptoms drooped. I hadn't intended to fast any longer than usual, except that I leave open to go longer to break the fast when I'm not hungry, though it's not always fun to wait. Today I had no hunger and decided to take advantage and just keep going with green tea or peppermint tea as long as I could. I had almost decided to go ahead and eat at 18 hours in when I saw that I got a reminder for an online event from 2-4. Now I'm at 22.5 hours and hungry but not starving. Shall I push it? I know I've read that there are advantages to going to 24. For me it's always, how do I fill the time? I had said I wouldn't go out, except that I would like another mask, and there is a place not far from me that gives away one per person. Plus they need fabric and I will finally give away some fabric that I actually like but that I could never really make any decision about what to make with. The exchange is made touchless,as I understand. That could take some time. I'll wait.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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Having listened to the other guru, who said he doesn't think anyone should fast daily, esp. women, I had given myself permission to eat early today, Saturday, but I woke up unhungry. I felt so unhungry that I thought I might even extend the fast instead of ending early, but lo, about half an hour before the fasting window was supposed to end, hunger kicked in. I had gone to a neighborhood grocery that has the veggies right inside the door, so I can shop fast, and take a few more steps to the cash register and get out. I went first thing in the morning before the air and surfaces might be contaminated. Then I took a drive and found that a little Vietnamese restaurant I liked was open for takeout and ordered a couple of things, plus bought a slice of this really good thick-crust pizza made at an authentic place back near my house. All this is takeout food. I had some of everything but froze the leftovers. I snacked during my window and expected to get done early because I've developed a sore throat, but I got hungry just before the end of my window eight hours later. Now I'm content, but still have the sore throat, so am gargling and taking my herbal immune support. I fought off flu symptoms back in March, and hope I can do it again. I will monitor carefully. I don't feel any fever or other symptoms. I have an oximeter. I am kind of kicking myself for going out to two stores last weekend and taking a walk near a boardwalk where I was disappointed to see many people without masks. This after weeks of no inside public places and a really clean diet. Back to quarantine. Gonna have to learn to use Instagram or Whole Foods or just make do without. I actually have plenty of starch and protein.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
ndividual.asp?gid=1323


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I've read that, though I am not betting on it. I just keep seeing pictures of people whose faces look so much better, skin smoother and often lifted. I didn't lose weight for vanity's sake but given how many other benefits fasting has, it seemed worth it to do it if it also helped skin. But I won't quit if that part of it doesn't work. But if it does help with sagging skin, ha cha cha! I sure have it. But then, so does a never-overweight friend of mine who said after she turned 60, her skin just drooped.

But I've been listening to one fasting guru who said if that was the intent, longer fasts of less frequency was what he recommended. He said autophagy kicks in later than people think. I'm letting that simmer.

I have been so hungry the last couple of mornings and all I have to do is get to 10 a.m. But I am not willing to push it on purpose or try to eat the perfect dinner, etc. On days when I'm not so hungry, I will sometimes wait as long as I can fill the time, but that is sometimes harder than managing my eating. I wasn't hungry at the end of my window, but I ate anyway. I like that calories are not a focus, but I do not believe they don't figure in. If I hadn't eaten dinner, I would have been quite low, and am sometimes willing to be that low, but only when it's easy, which it sometimes is. I think I've said before that I'm just not willing for this to be very hard. I'm glad it is for some people but no one can predict what anything will be like for someone else. I am still very motivated by other possible benefits.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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OOLALA53 you mean autophagy will reduce loose skin due to it taking loose skin as non essential?

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Yay! A May thread! Welcome to May, a few days late, LOL

Even though I've been doing IF at the 16 to 18 hour level for a long time, with some exceptions here and there, my body is clearly telling me that no matter what the research and experts say, that's pushing my body too much. So my minimum is 12 hours, with a goal of 14 to 16, but not a strict rule about it. It just isn't healthy for me to keep using coffee to manage real hunger in order to delay eating. I'm actually finding that some days, I simply am not hungry sooner and have no interest in food or need to eat, while other days, I am ravenous when I awaken, and it's pushing it to go 14 or 16 hours.

So I've decided to have no hard and fast rule, and let each day be what my body needs it to be. I'm going to focus as much on the what I eat as the when I eat, although my one hard and fast rule is no eating after 6:30pm. That one is only hard when I haven't eaten much all day and by 9pm I am already hungry. I don't sleep well on these nights, often suffer severe leg cramps all night, and the next day is always a struggle because of it.

So, I'm just taking it one day at a time, and trying not to overeat at meals, but also to eat enough. And to stop obsessing over the scale.

This is just what is going to have to work for me, because accepting this more flexible plan will further my health more than trying to force myself to do something more challenging, only to have it collapse and end up eating more or worse than if I would've followed a more moderate plan.

So, my IF is now more moderate, as is my eating. I am looking for slow and steady, and not getting too deep in the overcomplicated plans based on the promise of some scale number "success." For me, any "successes" of that kind are always short lived at best. So, time to relax more and just go with the needs of my body.

I've lived most of my life not trusting my body. Is it any wonder it keeps revolting against my ego's plans? So I am taking a step in faith to learn to trust my body with only a very few guidelines. And mostly those guidelines are about moderate eating more than moderate fasting. The moderate fasting takes care of itself. I don't care what the studies say. I do not have the body those studies are based on, and have health challenges that, as I age, simply won't cooperate with anything more drastic than moderate.

I am finally coming to accept this.


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I don’t know how it would work for allergies but I heard that for sagging skin, the body can see it as inessential, so it will be a target for autophagy and apoptosis.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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i heard that skin condition and allergies would improve with constant fasting. Not sure how true it is though.

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I am normally one to believe that people should not start changing this and that about their program before they have really given it a chance, but I'm toying with adjusting my hours after frittering away nearly a whole day looking at a fasting guru I had never heard of. He's also a keto coach, which I am not very interested in, but he sure knows about fasting. He recommend that people not get too commando with it, doing it every day because in his experience, people do stall and then they have to get even more strict, with people eating for tinier and tinier windows, or multiple day fasts. He's not against those, just not really frequently. I haven't decided how I'll change things; I might let my appetite rule. I am not in ketosis all the time, so I do get hungry, but some days, I don't. I think I'll see if on those days, I will shorten the window, but might even lengthen it occasionally for the opposite reason. But I am not in a rush because for years having a very routine daily pattern worked very well. The mentor for that said that habit theory says that the more complicated you make anything, the more chance there is for a floundering habit. I have decided that I can do some snacking during my window on weekend days, which I took advantage of yesterday and today, but no big overdoing it.

I had actually thought I might be able to go longer today and would like to push to 24 hours sometimes. One of my big incentives is seeing if I can affect the appearance of my skin. He said for that purpose, occasional longer fasts are more effective than shorter daily ones. But my appetite and day didn't work out for that. No harm. I kept to less than 8 hours.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
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*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
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I’m still committing this month only to a minimum I have a 16 hour fast each day. I’m having a hard enough time some days even with that, never mind making the overnight fast longer. However, even though I do not weigh, I can tell my pants are fitting more loosely since the beginning of Quarantine when I really buckle down to the overnight fast. I had committed for the month of May to limit my eating to two meals, one at the beginning and one at the end of the eating window. However, for various reasons on the first day, I already broke my rule. I don’t usually track but for the heck of it I did and I still ended up eating what other people would consider calories low enough to lose on. It was ironic because I wasn’t very hungry at 10, which is the opening of my window, so I didn’t eat until one, and still ended up snacking! Totally unnecessary. Today I also ended up eating later than I normally would. I was not hungry the last hour of my eating window, but I had something anyway because my experience has been that if I don’t, and even sometimes when I do, I get hungry before I have to go to bed, and I don’t like that. I’m willing to be hungry during the day, but I don’t want to be hungry when I’m trying to fall asleep. Ironically, it turned out that something I had eaten at lunchtime didn’t agree with me and I ended up losing my dinner and part of lunch. I won’t go into the details. At this point, after many changes I made also at the beginning of the year, I’m actually not interested in eating a lot less than I am, so I hope I recover and feel good enough to have some nice meals tomorrow.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
ndividual.asp?gid=1323


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