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2/23/20 8:35 P

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I'll definitely keep at, Darlene. My life feels like one big experiment. emoticon

I've had anaphylaxis reactions multiple times to medications and food additives. Thankfully, I've not experienced a reaction like that in decades. I'd like to keep it that way!

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2/23/20 8:23 P

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No. I have severe allergies to several broad classes of antibiotics. Not sure what will happen if they need to medicate me prior to dental work. Body tolerance to medication is incredibly dicey for me.

The only medication I take is Armour thyroid. I do not use OTC medication either. Nutritional supplements, herbs, essential oils are the things I tend to turn to when needed.

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2/23/20 6:47 P

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Jeanknee ' do you have to take antibiotics before you go to the dentist? I have to because of my shoulder for the rest of my life.

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Keep trying Jeanne and eventually you will find a medium you are happy with...I

just keep experimenting.

If you always do what you've always done,
You'll always be who you've always been!!!!!!

"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage
is the quiet voice at the
end of the day saying "I
will try again tomorrow!"

Mary Anne Radmacher

Darlene
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A good laugh and a long sleep are the best cures in the doctor's book.

- Irish Proverb


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Thanks CroquetCourt!

I've had issues with food tolerance since birth. So, this certainly is nothing new to me.

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Darlene, Brown rice is a no go for me. I've not tried Wild Rice and have been thinking about trying it. But, I'm wary. My thyroid levels are the worse they've ever been. So, definitely not going to try it at this point.

So many plant proteins bother my body. All grains, legumes, night shades and some other miscellaneous foods have been eliminated from my diet. We remove them to give the body time to settle down following autoimmune reactions. Attempt to reintroduce and have not been successful.

I'm wondering if the protein supplements may be an issue simply because they're processed and not a whole food. Although, I do know that whole grains are an issue for me and have actually caused worse reactions than processed grains. Like brown rice is worse for me than white rice. Whole wheat bread is worse for me than sourdough.

It's been quite a learning experience!



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Jeanknee - I hope you can find a protein source that will work for you. There has to be something out there.

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Hope you get it worked out to what is good for you. I don't eat a lot of starchy things
or pasta/rice.......I have been subbing cauliflower rice.......works great.
Does Wild Rice or Brown rice affect you the same way?

Edited by: DARLENEK04 at: 2/21/2020 (21:24)
If you always do what you've always done,
You'll always be who you've always been!!!!!!

"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage
is the quiet voice at the
end of the day saying "I
will try again tomorrow!"

Mary Anne Radmacher

Darlene
PS:

A good laugh and a long sleep are the best cures in the doctor's book.

- Irish Proverb


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I can sense that it is going to take some time and patience on my part to tease out my present experience.

It is evident that my body is not tolerating rice. It had been out of my diet for 3 years, when we began testing tolerance. At least now I know that rice precipitates autoimmune reactions that take my thyroid out.

Reaching the protein goal set for me can be a challenge. So, we have begun another tolerate test. This time we're testing pea protein. Legumes have been out of my diet for nearly 4 years at this point.

As far as legumes are concerned, there is one particular legume that appears to be a clear no go: chick pea. Pinto bean may be okay. The pea protein? The jury remains out.

This morning I can clearly feel what I describe as inflammatory heat. I can feel it in both legs. Not pleasant. Is it the pea protein? Not sure at this point. The legs also feel heavy. Water retention? Likely. The body will hold onto water to quench inflammatory heat. Doing its best to put out the fire. I definitely need to stay on top of the anti-inflammatory supplements!

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I could hope.........I guess.............

If you always do what you've always done,
You'll always be who you've always been!!!!!!

"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage
is the quiet voice at the
end of the day saying "I
will try again tomorrow!"

Mary Anne Radmacher

Darlene
PS:

A good laugh and a long sleep are the best cures in the doctor's book.

- Irish Proverb


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Jeanine - it has been an adventure and continues to be one!

Darlene- tomorrow is another day. May it be better for all of us!

Keep on Sparking! It really works!


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It hit the fan here today, so I am a fixin' to take a nerve pill and go to bed early.

I totally know exactly what you mean....folks have found it is harder to run over
me than in the past....

Edited by: DARLENEK04 at: 2/20/2020 (18:18)
If you always do what you've always done,
You'll always be who you've always been!!!!!!

"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage
is the quiet voice at the
end of the day saying "I
will try again tomorrow!"

Mary Anne Radmacher

Darlene
PS:

A good laugh and a long sleep are the best cures in the doctor's book.

- Irish Proverb


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CroquetCourt,

Seems that you and I have found that many of the same foods do not serve our body. It has been quite an adventure!


Darlene,

I've often referred to stress as my Achilles heel. An inability to adequately manage the stressors can really send me into a tail spin. As I've aged I seem to be managing it better. Less tolerance? Not willing to put up with things that I tolerated in the past? Speaking my mind rather than biting my tongue? Yeah. That's been a real popular one! NOT!!

Some of the folks in my life that were content with the quiet, complacent Jeanne are not happy with my new found voice. It has meant estrangements. And, I'm okay with them. The relationships that I thought were there were an illusion.

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Darlenexo4 - Spark is a great tool for planning out all your meal and tracking. I don't eat soy, wheat, dairy, rice, potatoes, eggs, bananas, mangoes, pork and a bunch of other stuff and I monitor it all with the tracking. I am down 120 pounds. So, hang in there and work with small steps. Losing weight is about eating less. You can do it!

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My G'mother was diabetic, my daughter is also, son is prediabetic as am I....My daughter
is having trouble with her eating, both them have appetites and love to eat....
I have been trying to eat healthy for several years, went gluten free and found I am gluten
sensitive...
I wish my kidney issues would resolve, but the dr. thinks it was from taking nexium...I do not
eat soy in any form because it really is not good for you with kidney issues.

There are some other things going on that are not health related but cause a lot of stress
which also causes health issues.............I try really hard to stay positive and keep my head
on straight.............

If you always do what you've always done,
You'll always be who you've always been!!!!!!

"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage
is the quiet voice at the
end of the day saying "I
will try again tomorrow!"

Mary Anne Radmacher

Darlene
PS:

A good laugh and a long sleep are the best cures in the doctor's book.

- Irish Proverb


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You're welcome, Darlene.

Diabetes (both Type I & Type II) are present on both sides of my family. Knock on wood, none of us (meaning me and my siblings) have developed it ... yet. I say 'yet' because a couple of my siblings have tested pre-diabetic. A couple of us (me included) had kidney issues when we were younger that appear to have resolved.

It seems that many of us with hypothyroidism have issues with gluten, dairy, and soy. For, me, it isn't simply gluten that's an issue ... gluten-free grains are also an issue ... rice in particular.

emoticon to you, Darlene!

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Thanks Jeanne, for the information. I will give that a try this evening.

I have Kidney disease, with pre-diabetic, so I am trying to lose weight
as fast as I can so we don't go into full Diabetic mode....seems like it
is always something.



If you always do what you've always done,
You'll always be who you've always been!!!!!!

"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage
is the quiet voice at the
end of the day saying "I
will try again tomorrow!"

Mary Anne Radmacher

Darlene
PS:

A good laugh and a long sleep are the best cures in the doctor's book.

- Irish Proverb


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Darlene,

I feel for you! It took nearly 10 years for my condition to be diagnosed.

What I've learned over the past several decades since that time is there is a difference between thyroid dysfunction and a 'clinical' thyroid condition. So, until particular levels were seen in my blood work, my symptoms of thyroid dysfunction were essentially ignored by the conventional healthcare system.

I did find a nutritionist during that 10 year period that was able to help me. Unfortunately, she moved out of state and it was long before there was such a thing as online connections/information. So, I lost her support and my health suffered because of it.

Do take a look at the Wellness Resources site. There is a wealth of information available there regarding thyroid function/conditions. Yes. It is a supplement site. However, there is so much information available free for the reading with no supplement purchases necessary.

I have found their Wellness Consultants incredibly supportive over the years. They're happy to answer questions and I've never felt pressured to purchase anything ... ever!

www.wellnessresources.com/

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Does anyone have trouble getting diagnosed with thyroid?

My numbers are close to the line but I have nearly all the symptoms, but the drs.
say: A: my imagination B: Nothing wrong with your thyroid.

I am only on a low dose Thyroid med, once a day.


If you always do what you've always done,
You'll always be who you've always been!!!!!!

"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage
is the quiet voice at the
end of the day saying "I
will try again tomorrow!"

Mary Anne Radmacher

Darlene
PS:

A good laugh and a long sleep are the best cures in the doctor's book.

- Irish Proverb


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Hello! Eleven days left of January.
Lasso it, and make it a successful month. We have the ability to do it. Let's DO it.
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Wanted to share a link to a team thread that I opened yesterday regarding carbohydrate sensitivity:

www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/
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geboard_thread.asp?board=0x3
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The fatigue nd cognitive dysfunction associated with the rare, complex chronic condition diagnosed in May 2019 has been challenging and means the energy I have to participate here has been impacted.

Hoping to go back and read posts and contribute here more as energy permits.

Wishing all of you the best!

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Hi all! I'm an intermittent sparker I guess. I was struggling for a long time with my meds after my TT. Drs only wanted to treat based on TSH and those numbers looked good but I was suffering and struggled to lose weight. A little more than a year ago I found a personal trainer that had me relook at my medications and I switched Dr's and went on Nature Throid. I had low vitamin D among other nutrient deficiencies and spent this past year correcting and balancing a lot of things. In October of this year my A1C numbers went over the threshold so no I have a diabetes diagnosis even thought I immediately got on board with eliminating processed sugars as much as possible in my diet. Gave up coffee because I couldn't do it without sugar. I also curbed starchy carbs quite a bit. My daily carb intake is avg about 50 carbs per day. I do have variations but I feel overall better keeping carbs lowish. I have finally started to lose weight. Since October I've lost 15 lbs. I have not exercised. I have also kept my blood sugar numbers within range this whole time and hoping the A1C drops out of danger zone. I went back to the personal trainer that helped me rewrite my health focus and started working with her today.

I was looking that January Challenge. If I'm getting that information from a place other than sparkpeople would that be okay to use for the calculations? The trainer has apps she prefers because she can link with me and monitor directly. It is a layer of accountability for me that I've needed. I'm tracking food in another app and they have a custom app for exercise routines. I'm going to check for calories burned may need to re-enter exercise on spark to get the expenditure. I like the idea of another layer of monitoring what I'm doing. But trying to not overwhelm myself with a lot of posting and cross posting.

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I've been on thyroid meds for about 6 weeks and i have lost about 8 lbs without changing anything else. i lost weight over thankgsgiving week. that has never happened before, i hope the meds continue to help.

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i have been on thyroid meds in the past and it only helped a little. then i moved so i switched doctors and the script was no longer prescribed.

i now have a new doctor and a new script. i know it wont be a cure, but i hope it s a step in the latter to being healthy, months ago i started changing my attitude so i have had some small successes. i hope if i do some careful research then at my next doctor appointment and find more natural treatments for my thyroid

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lol, I just scrolled down and read that Jeanknee misses me. Good timing!
I've been neglecting spark, but I still HAVE the spark; I was just busy scraping, priming and painting the house, and holding the ladder for the guys on the tall ladders, lol.
My weight just began coming down again. I have an appointment right before Thanksgiving. I'm looking forward to seeing what Mrs. Doc's scale says. I also just had my blood-work done for my thyroid and cholesterol etc. So maybe that will show something new.

Okay, so NOW for a story. I'll just share one right now, because I gotta get to bed, but THIS story began with ANOTHER story about my sons in the Marines. I'll save that one for later, because it put a bee in my bonnet and I don't wanna get riled up right before bed.

But, yesterday, Hubby and I took our four youngest kids out to eat at a restaurant called Mission Barbecue. (does everyone have one of those in their town?) It's a VERY patriotic restaurant and the walls are full of military photos and logos and such.
These 'kids' are now 18, almost 17, almost 15, and 13 1/2. (they are the bottom four out of nine).
So, my 18 yr old daughter.... She's something else. She was sitting across from me trying to eat a barbecued pulled-chicken sandwich. She didn't even get HALF of it down yet.
She's a tiny little thing and it crossed my mind to say, "
"If you manage to eat that whole thing you will double your weight!"

She blushed and exclaimed, "I've been FULL for FIFTEEN MINUTES!!!!"

We laughed.
A minute later, she put the sandwich down. We laughed again.
She said,
"I gotta wait a minute.... I'm GONNA DO it..... but I gotta wait a minute."

The waiter even noticed her struggle and made a comment. lol
15 minutes later, she got the last bite down.

YEA! emoticon emoticon

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Thank you for the warm fuzzy, BRENNER! emoticon

My spirts are good. Physically I remain challenged. October was a 'rough' one. Not sure why. November will be what it is going to be. One day at a time.

I FINALLY got the sample for the DNA testing taken and shipped. Hoping there will be some useful information elicited from it. Once I receive the raw results, I'll need to run them through another service to elicit the health information the clinical nutritionist, doctor and I desire.

We shall see. I know this will be a weeks to months long process to obtain the info. But, the cogs on the wheel have at least begun to turn.

I love the fall. It is my favorite season of the year. emoticon

Wildland fires in recent years have made the fall rough. The smoke challenges me. This year has been MUCH, MUCH better! It is the best fire season we've experienced (despite the news) in decades!!! And, although devastating fires are occurring, especially to those directly impacted by injury, loss of life, damage / destruction to homes, places of business, etc. ... this year has, truly, been MUCH better.

I know the fire season is not over for us ... yet. It was the weeks preceding Thanksgiving and Thanksgiving week that were SO HORRENDOUS for us last year. The temps are cooler this year which has helped. Some rain would be really nice!

Edited by: JEANKNEE at: 11/5/2019 (12:06)
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Hello All! Hope you're enjoying fall and not active on here lately because you're happy, healthy, and have no cause for concerns!

Just wanted to share a quick warm fuzzy because this team has brought me a lot of peace and smiles this year...thank you! emoticon emoticon

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Thanks PERRYBABE!

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Learning to take the meds correctly was a huge step for me. Do take care of yourself. So sorry to hear about your daughter and your dog. That's scary! emoticon

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Thanks ladies for the great advice with the seasonal slumps! I am noticing a change for the positive since taking the vitamin D and know that until I'm done with physical therapy on my legs I'll have to be happy with the pool and look forward to more exercise in the future (hopefully to help the nice long MN winter).

My focus has been on my kids over the last week since my dog was attacked by another dog while my daughter was on a walk with him. They're both going to be fine but it really helped me remember to practice self-care so I can optimally care for others. I have not forgotten or missed my thyroid meds at all which I have done in the past when I've gone into beast-mom-mode. Pretty glad I've made that turn for the better. Looking forward to my next labs as I'm starting to feel more energy (even amidst very little sleep while monitoring my dog's wounds and not much exercise)...hoping I can stay at this dose for a while so I can adjust my nutrition and try whatever's next on this journey.

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Brenner-yea I get legit seasonal affective disorder. I find vitamin D, A and a B complex help a lot. Mine usually lasts from late August through mid-late October. It is also important to force yourself to exercise. I also try to "fake it 'til I make it" and do things like decorate for fall and clean out closets and what not. I want to cry the whole time I'm laying out pumpkins and fall leaves, but I also know the feelings I'm having are not "real" and I am trying to convince myself to be happy.

NTL-you might also try upping your calcium to help with nightly leg cramps. My mom had to have her varicose veins removed...there is some test they can do and make that decision.

ETA: I don't take vitamin A, I just try to eat more orange vegetables.

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Hi Ladies!!

My experience with finding a care provider and one who listens is that it really just depends on the person you see! We were military for 25+ years, traveled overseas twice, and around the states. During that time we not only saw military doctors, but also civilian in civilain clinics and hospitals. It just seems to be so hit and miss as to what you get now days. There are those who will sit and listen to you, talk with you, ask you questions, and take a genuine interest in what you are telling them. Then, there are those who take a medioker interest--they do and dont care, and, then you have the pleasers--they say what they think you want them to say, and give you the drugs they think you want them to give you! The provider I am seeing now is not associated with the military at all. She's a geriatriacist. I put her somewhere between genuinely caring and medioker. She is interested in my back problems and was the only doctor so far to explain to me that it is made up of 3 different types of pain. No other doctor has told me this stuff. I dont blame her for the problems I suffered with the celebrex. I think she truly felt she was doing the right thing putting me on twice a day. She really didnt know how I would react. I feel in the world we live in today, a lot of doctor's are starting to feel their knowledge and know-how is no longer needed as more and more people turn to the internet for answers, or find these docs who do video chats and all of that. Dr. Google to the rescue!

I do have a question for you ladies of my age and older... Varicose veins, night pain, and how you deal if you suffer from it?? I have read so much stuff, on the internet!, and talked with one of my doctors about it. He really didnt know what to tell me. I blamed that on his being male, 31 years old, and not much experience with older patients. I plan to talk with my new doctor about this, but that wont be until December. I was taking the supplement Butcher's Broom for a while. It did and didnt help. I try hard to keep sodium intake down. I also try and eat more foods higher in postassium and magnesium. There for a while we were doing potatoes every other night with supper--ya, burned out on that real fast too!! Hubby and I cant really enjoy potatoes much anymore. LOL. Banana's and I have never gotten along, and the texture makes me gag. V8 juice is fine, but if I am not careful when I drink it, I suffer BAD gas problems and bloating. I am definitely getting old!!! LOL. I do have a wedge pillow that when it gets really bad I haul out and put in the bed. I was just curious how you deal with it if you suffer it....



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I appreciate this team SO MUCH too! I'm missing our fearless SusanSKI and hope she will eventually return to the mix. We have her to thank for initiating this thread.

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I've recently learned that the seasons most definitely impact thyroid function along with other things. Funny how the heat never seemed to be an issue for me until summer 2018. The summer heat has been a true challenge for me the past couple of summers. I've been addressing that challenge (dizziness) with sole, since it appears to be an electrolyte balance issue.

Here's a link regarding sole: wellnessmama.com/12158/make-
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The other thing watched is vitamin D. Those of us living in the northern latitudes may have a need for higher doses of vitamin D during the winter months, when sun exposure is reduced. I live someplace with a lot of sunshine. So, it has not been an issue.

I, too, am fortunate to have a PCP that listens and truly cares about my health and well-being. My OB/GYN is the same. They have both been incredibly supportive in aiding my efforts to address the challenges I'm experiencing.

There have been many times that I have been incredibly frustrated. However, I realize that more often than not there is far more to it than meets my eye! I'm doing a better job of not only granting myself some grace; but, granting that same grace and benefit of the doubt to others.

I really am fortunate to have the care team that I do. And, yes, we need to be our own best advocate.

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Love you ladies and this team so much! I just have to say thank you for giving me something to look forward to every day. Being a single mom of teens, I don't have a lot of options for conversations , especially around these important health issues/questions and you've been a great resource for me.

Still struggling with getting enough to eat when I eat healthier. I go from one extreme to the other ...not enough calories/nutrients/food to spending too much money/time/energy to same old junk I'm trying to avoid. I am thinking of investing in time with a nutritionist so I'm going to start looking at the resources you've already told me about and hope they can help me get enough into a meal plan to sustain me throughout the day/week.

I agree that you need a doctor (almost doesn't matter which kind) who listens to you. While my PCP doesn't know much about hashimotos or hypothyroidism, she listens to me when I ask her for something and I so appreciate that. I now have the perspective that I'm supposed to be my own health advocate, she just needs to help me with what I need. Means more work on the research front and trusting my intuition for what to try next but seems less frustrating than trying to argue with a doctor who thinks they know my own body better than I do.

Another question going through my head is about the seasons. Does anyone do anything differently to help your body prepare for or adjust to the seasons?
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NTL: My experience with an endocrinologist was dreadful. So bad that my husband asked when we left if I was sure he was a real doctor. It was BAAAD. You don't need an endo, you need a good doctor that is familiar with thyroid issues and ultimately...LISTENS TO THEIR PATIENTS!! Because they are all capable of doing the research to learn about how to treat you.

Good luck with the going NSAID free. I wish I had better advice than meditate. LOL!! But my experience with opioids, narcotics, and one doctor even tried an antidepressant. I'd rather be in pain than deal with those side effects. And since my side effect with NSAIDS is bleed to death...well I guess no on that one too. I even had a doctor yell at me because I refused to take anything but Tylenol and advil (before I knew I couldn't).

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There is gut and adrenal testing awaiting for me. I need to get on it!

Thanks for sharing your experience about the zinc keeping you awake WYOJEN. I'll keep that in mind!

I have had several days in a row with much less sleep than is typical for me. I'm not quite sure what to make of it. I have my annual visit with the PCP & OB/GYN soon. And, the PCP does testing annually; so, we shall see how things go.

I'm wondering if the TSH is too low and I'm moving into the hyper territory. That's happened a number of times for me. So, maybe a dose reduction will come. And, the sleep disruption may be entirely unrelated to the TSH.

Anyway, I think I'm going to turn in early tonight because I'm feeling incredibly tired. There's a potential for dry lightening tonight. Hoping the atmospheric disruption will pass on through without any fires started. I'm thankful that we've had a very quiet fire season thus far. Last repot, quietest the state (California) has seen in 20 years!

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Happy September ladies!!! Now if the fall weather would only get here!! 96 here today with a heat index of 101. And summer drags on....and on....and on.... SIGH.

I am gonna try to go for a while without any anti inflammatory medication and see what happens. I will still take my 1 tramadol with supper daily, and use the Voltaren gel on my lower back. The Celebrex is not only causing the spotting issues, but also the stomach pains, so I need to make the stuff just be a thing of my past now. Good grief.

WYOJEN--Hey, was wondering where you were!! I am post menopausal and in my mid 50s. I dont go in again unti December for blood work with my doctor, and she is not an endochronolgist, so as it was stated, running the 3T and 4 tests prolly wont change much of anything for me if she has no clue what the results mean! I will be curious to see where my results really fall, given this is a new doctor, and as I have already discovered, everyone's ranges seem to be different when it comes to TSH and where "normal" is. The military is up to 5.0 being normal, the VA was up to 4.8... When I showed the results to this new doctor I started seeing in May, she said "Oh, those both are higher than where our normal falls here". I have no clue what I might be in for. I just hope I can stay on this dosage, because the 75mg put me into the hyper catagory and over dosed me doing it! I take 50 right now.

Had a nice Labor Day visit with our daughter and her family. My grand baby is 2 years old now. Man, has the time just flown by. She is a very energtic and typical toddler!

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Oh and I was going to add supplements I take:
Morning:
Zinc, Selenium, B-complex (I can't take Zinc at nigh, it keeps me awake)
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Calcium, magnesium, Omega, D, Milk Thistle

I get some seasonal depression/anxiety and I think the B-complex is helping the most.

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I can't believe I haven't posted since July!! I tried to read through everything...not sure I got everything:

Brenner: how is the anti inflammatory diet going for you?

NTL: I had to request a full spectrum thyroid test. And even then the spectrum of T3 being "normal" is so huge that unless your doctor really knows what they are look at they might pass on it being normal. I don't know your age, but for pre-menopause your T3 is supposed to be in the upper 1/4 or the range to be normal. Basically if your TSH is normal, but your are still having symptoms of hypothyroid, you should request it to be checked. It was a game changer for me with my energy.

Jeanie-yeah on cancer free!!

As for me, my low fat/high fiber diet continues to produce loss. I am under 150 for the first time in two years and in a few more pounds I will have lost 15 pounds since last august. I also went and raided that natural foods grocery store here in my town to find soy free bread products. I kind of had a lazy summer regarding fitness, but changed up my routine last week and that is helping. I'm also being cautious about leg exercises so I don't throw out my back. But this GENIUS remembered how they made me sleep with a pillow between my legs when I was pregnant and that actually seems to promote healing and help a lot when things get flared up. I also had some oral surgery a few weeks ago which kind of messed up the high fiber stuff since I could pretty much just eat soup and oatmeal and yogurt and pasta. LOL!!

I go to get my mammogram on the 19th (first one) and then I'm off for an annual physical with the doc. I plan to talk with them about my weight loss struggles and discoveries this past year.

Oh and as far as pain killers, I take a little Tylenol and that's it. I hemorrhaged with a miscarriage very badly and was told to only take IBprofen or any NSAID very rarely. Plus when my thyroid is wonk I get ulcers. I have a history with chronic pain (endometriosis and chronic appendicitis) and decided to take the route of meditation and yoga to cope with pain. These aren't the same as stenosis, but that has been my method. I do have a pretty insane pain tolerance as a result...like when I had my son I kept wondering when the pain was going to get bad. LOL!! Personally I had a hell of a lot more pain when I had a bowel obstruction in my early 20s.

That was more long winded that planned...LOL!!

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Happy September ladies! I'm choosing to have a great day and stay positive amid all the pills and levels and confusion about how it all interacts. I got my TSH back and even though it's in the normal range, my gut tells me (hmmm...perhaps a pun there works about my gut health) that I need to change the dosage so I asked my doctor to go back to the original dosage which is a little higher than what I'm at. She agreed to try it and we'll re-evaluate after the next lab in 6-8 weeks. Worth a try! Does anyone else do more tests for gut health or checking your adrenals? I have heard that is what I should do next but unsure where to start other than google.

Hope you all have a great week!

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The T3 and T4 do not get run for me either. The only time anything other than TSH was run was when the synthetic thyroid hormones were not working for me. Then, they were run and the medication was changed.

I also take vitamin D and have for years. Both my PCP and OB/GYN advised that I supplement with it years ago. In recent years since working with the clinical nutritionist the dose has been increased. I take 5000 IU per day in two doses of 2500 IU. Following my husband's shoulder surgery his orthopedic surgeon was monitoring his vitamin D levels and had him taking 10,000 IU per day for awhile. I don't remember how long.

My vitamin D levels have never been low which actually surprised my doctor. Apparently, it is not at all unusual for folks to have low vitamin D levels. And, I've learned that all of my siblings have low vitamin D levels.

Ironically, the sun worshipper in the family has the lowest levels. But, she also slathers on the sunscreen and I do not. I'm in the sun early in the day or late in the day unprotected and indoors, covered up, or in the shade during the most intense periods of the day.

I have also been supplementing with the methylated form of B-12 for a number of years and those blood levels are also good. My ferritin may have been checked during the year that the hematologist was trying to determine why my WBC was so low. But, I do not have and cannot see those results online. I need to request a copy of all the testing the hematologist did.

I do know that my RBC, hematocrit and hemoglobin levels have always been good except during the very early years of my life. I do not believe that I have ever taken or been told to supplement with iron. I am a meat eater though and that may have something to do with it. I know that B-12 tends to be more of an issue with vegans/vegetarians. I was a vegetarian for 10+ years and even then my RBC, hematocrit and hemoglobin levels were fine. Don't know that B-12 was ever tested at that point.



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I dont know why that test has never been run... I was being seen in a military clinic though, so maybe it is budget something or other like so many other things are! Been there, done it. LOL.

I was told by my new doctor who isnt in the miltary clinic that because I am post menopausal I am not to have iron supplements, or take vitamins with iron in them, as women my age and older do not need all the extra iron. What I get from meat is good enough. That is what she told me. I am making a list of questions to take along when I see her next regarding the Vit D and that where the synthroid is concerned. Not sure if she will do the T3 and 4 testing or not.

I feel left out of the loop where all this throid stuff is concerned!!

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I have been hearing a lot about how so many things can help your body use thyroid hormones better. The ones I've found key for my body are vitamins D, B12, and ferretin(iron). While I've not had problems with my T3 or T4, you should always get those checked too, can help you and your doctor determine if you need additional medications or supplements to make the optimal combination for your body.

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That is interesting Brenda... Vit D and being low. I came up low too the last time I had blood work done. It has me wondering now if the synthroid doesnt play into it somehow. I have a friend who has the same issue. I did say something to my doctor about it, and she told me that naitionwide there is a problem now with Vit D and people not getting enough of it. Sunshine used to be the immediate go-to for it, but even that isnt the answer anymore. Never mind the skin cancer aspect of that! She told me to continue drinking my 3 cups of milk daily and for the time being we wont worry about it. I also do take a multi vitamin daily that contains Vit D. If you get too much you can get sick, so she is very hesitant at this point to put me on straight Vit D. I am gonna question how synthroid might play into this because I have heard this before from other thyroid patients.

T4 free and T3 have never been run on me. Do those make a big difference for getting your medication right?

Weather changes here again in the past couple of days, so my back is loudly telling me about it! Post-op appt this afternoon, so I am going to talk with her about the celebrex causing issues. All I know is whether I start taking it again, or something else, I have to get back on something for the inflammation. The pain the last few nights has been horrible. I told my hubby last night I am just ready to have everything from under the boobs removed!! Give me a new everything boobs down--flatter, thinner stomach, less hips, no butt, thinner thighs, feet with no issues, and straight spine with no problems! Dont I dream big!!!! LOL. emoticon

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So I'm learning to laugh at everything in life because I don't need to cause any more stress in my body than all of these doctor appointments are already causing. Last week they took so much blood for so many tests and guess which one they forgot to do...TSH! Had to go back in yesterday to give more blood for that test and I'm still laughing that my doctor didn't get that one confirmed. One thing I did find out is that my vitamin D levels are deficient again (had this about 5 or 6 years ago). We'll do the same regimen that worked then, 15000 units for 3 months and then daily 2000-3000 for a year. Wondering if I should just stay on it, can I get too much vitamin D?

To comment on your question about other tests, there are a lot of recommended lab work websites out there if you google it. The ones I've continued to be interested in might be different than what you may need or are interested in because of your own levels and complex needs. I've always asked for the vitamin D, magnesium, vitamin B12, ferretin (iron), T4 Free, T3 Total, and a complete metabolic panel which includes calcium, glucose, and cholesterol. Just helps me manage my meds and nutrition needs to have a more complete picture and if they're going to take the blood anyway, might as well put it to good use!

In agreement about only one med, that would be a dream...currently taking 4 on top of daily vitamins (which are about 9 pills a day now to try something new). Always amazed at what our bodies can handle!

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I take 1 (one) tramadol a day...with supper, just so I can sit and watch TV comfortably. Been like this since 2013 when my doctor in MO first started me on it---back then the opioid craziness isnt what it is today! By the time I go to bed, its worn off, so it does just what I need it too. We get these weather fronts, and because stenosis is a form of arthritis, my lower back goes berserk. My doctor here told us that stenosis pain is made up of 3 different pains--nerve pain from the pressure the bone puts onto the nerves in the spine, muscle pain, and then bone pain. She said because of the degree I am at with it all, a mild to moderate pain killer is what I need. She said she puts many stenosis patients on it, because along with a good anti inflammatory, it allows the patient to be comfortable for a few hours. She put me on celebrex but now we are thinking that may have been what was causing the spotting and bleeding I saw the GYN for. I have my post-op with her this coming week and plan to have that conversation with her--pick her brain a little and see what she knows about that being a possible. If she says yes, I may have to see my regular doc again and see about getting changed to something like Mobic. emoticon

I had told my doc here that I wanted off the tramadol. Her response was an anti iinflammatory alone prolly wouldnt do much for me, given where things are with the stenosis itself. Unfortunately, most pain killers do fall under that heading of either narcotic, or opioid.
She also told me and hubby that the surgeries for stenosis are becoming less and less now because they discovered that as they raise this set of discs and bones in one area, another one shifts in a few years, and it becomes a never-ending situation. A lot of spinal doctors are moving away from surgery now. I am okay with that because I have Lordosis as well, and surgery was always a larger risk for me of being paralysed after.

I am wondering something. ... you have talked about this blood test with the 3T and 4T and all of that. I have never ever had that done. They just did THS and something else and decided with that result to put me on synthroid. I am not due for bloodwork until December time frame. Did you ask for these extra tests or are they only done by endochronologists or how did you come about to have them? Is that how they came to put you on Armour Thyroid?

Yes, I know all about people who go up to Canada for laser eyeball surgery!... my SIL who lives up in WI did it a couple of years ago! Its a thing now days. I know people who go up there for RX drugs too.

I used the VA for a good year (hubby and I are both prior military) here before I started seeing the doctor I am right now. I now use her instead, mostly because she is here in town and I dont have to drive but a mile or so! I was getting my scripts filled thru the VA for a while though. Now its back to the military base. We have the retired military insurance so we can get our drugs from that pharmacy without charge. VA was free as well. I can either use a doctor off post, or on the base. For right now I am liking and happy with this doctor. My age, and her speciality is geriatrics. No kids at all running around while you wait to be seen! She only sees older people, and thus knows all about the conditions we suffer. Its great.

I wish I was like you an only one RX medication a day. That is truly something to be happy about Jean. emoticon



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I'm happy that I've not had a need for prescription pain killers because too many in my immediate family have had adverse reactions (some quite serious) to various prescription pain killers.

The only prescription I'm on is Armour thyroid. I cannot even remember the last time I took even an OTC medication. My doc was very reluctant to put me on Armour thyroid decades ago for the reasons AquaGirl shared. For me, Armour thyroid seems to work incredibly well.

Each of us have our own unique body chemistries. And, what can be a wonder drug for another can be a killer.

Where one lives does make a difference. Regulations are different. Services available are different. Costs are different.

I live in California and it is not unusual for folks here to cross the border into Mexico for medical treatment and prescriptions or fly to Asia for medical services.

We have relatives living in Washington state and many there used to cross the northern border and go to Canada to give birth until Canada put an end to it because too many from the U.S. were suing their OB/GYNs. Not sure if that is still the case or not.

We have another relative that's an optometrist and they've lived in North Dakota and Montana. Not unusual for folks there to cross the border into Canada for laser eye surgeries.

We used to have far more military bases than we do now; but, we still have multiple VA hospitals and bases in our region. My late BIL often used both his VA and civilian medical insurances for medical treatment.


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On the topic of Tramadol... I too have read the internet, and the websites that say Ultram/Tramadol is a narcotic, and also an opioid. There are a lot of them out there, that's for sure!! I have learned after traveling with the military for many years, that depending on where you live, and how they clasiify things in state you live in, it may or may not be considered an actual opioid. There is a difference between a narcotic classificiation, and an opioid classification. ID card needed to pick it up an RX is another one that it depends on where you live, and what that state's regulations are. I can tell you that the military/federal government still does not classify tramadol as an opioid. They use it as a pain killer, and give it out like ibuprofen and other drugs. It is classified as a oral analgesic in the pharmacy formularies, a step lower than opioid meds, like morphine, fentanal, etc.

Not all doctor's are on board yet with it being an opioid either. My doctor, for instance, flat out agrees with pharmacists that its not really there. The addiction people get on the stuff is mental, not physical. They cannot believe they can be put on something else or will do well without it. The "withdrawal" they go thru is mental uncertainty. No shakes or sweats and all of that kind of stuff.

I have been taking tramadol since 2013. I have lived in 2 different states while being prescribed it. Both states continue to view and treat it differently with precriptions and what is required. It definitly is not a one size fits all country wide yet! The bottles I get dont have any addiction warnings on them at all... and mine come out of a military pharmacy--which is federal government standards. The same with the VA and their scripts for it. As I said, its a state by state thing right now, not national, and a lot of mixed thoughts and feelings about it can be found on the internet and all over. My doctor is a civilian, not military, and does not work on the base in our town. Has her own office and is not affiliated with the military or government at all.


When it comes to drugs and how they are prescribed and given out, every state is different. Where I currently live, we can no longer buy Sudafed without presenting a script for it. Where we used to live, and where my oldest child lives, a driver's lisence is all one needs at the Walmart counter to get a box of the real stuff! We can buy the fake stuff here with no problems, but not the real stuff. Different states, different rules.

As I said not everything you read on these various websites is reality!!

Tramadol is listed as an analgesic in the military forumulary, not as Opioid agonist or Opioid analgesic. Its in the same catagory as Tylenol. Not in the same catagory as morhpine, percoset, and the Oxy club! The Federal Gov. does not view it as a opioid. The media, however, is another story, and tends to put things where they dont really belong.







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I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents worth. My doctor didn't put me on Armor thyroid because it's too difficult to control the T-3, reverse T-3, T-4 and reverse T-4 levels. Instead, he added Cytomel to my Synthroid. Then, he monitors all of my other levels and makes adjustments as needed.

As for Tramadol, it is now considered an opioid. I believe the classification changed maybe this past January? I had a doctor prescribe it for me in March and it requires an ID in order to pick it up. (It makes me sick so it's pretty much useless) It used to be classified as non addictive. Now, the label has all kinds of warnings on it and actually comes right out and says it's addictive. It also says on the label, "Caution, this medication is an opioid".

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