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4/8/19 10:19 P

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I couldn't telll ya anything about the 60's!! I was was born then in early 1960's, and didn't start getting obese unti after the sexual molestings began... particularly after age 13. At some point here a few years ago, reading stuff online, I was remembering a couple of my group therapy groups (rape/incest survivors group), where so many of the gals were speaking of fighting drug or alcohol addictions to cope with their pain. I finally realized well, the only reason I wasn't fighting drug/alcohol was because I was so young. It wasn't like a 12 year old could march down to the local tavern and do the whole "hit me again, bartender" thing. So food was my "drug" of choice, specifically anything with SUGAR in it...mostly... or fats like butter, crisco, etc.

But of course OA covers the whole gamut of overeating to moderate pain, not just because of incest, but also many other issues sexual abuse, rape, domestic abuse, hostile work situations, abandonment or trust issues, emotional distance,marital/parental /familial issues like from stresses that impacted families (like survivors of horrific events like the Great Depression or the Holocaust, etc)...and some maybe just because their family was too lax in supervision of portion control so people just grew up with bad habits of eating out of boredom or lack of other stimulation, no hobbies etc other than just eating food. Sometimes Food Just Tastes GOOD!!

She girds herself with strength, And strengthens her arms.
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4/8/19 12:47 P

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Interesting topic, I hope more people chime in with more info. I don't know much about the history of OA.

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BECCACOZZIE's Photo BECCACOZZIE Posts: 592
4/8/19 11:25 A

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Thank you for sharing your story, Julia! OA has been around since the sixties, and used grey sheet until 1986. I never encountered a journal focused meeting. But, there have been so many types of meetings. It is harder to find information on the meetings that do not fall within the current OA endorsed format, using OA endorsed literature. But I'm glad for different options. I like attending online OA groups that "meet" every few hours around the clock, seven days a week at

http://oa12step4coes.org/meetings.html

There are all kinds of phone bridge meetings too.

I'm so glad you're here!





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4/7/19 5:33 P

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Wow! Sounds complicated! No wonder I've really not "gotten into" OA? 40 years ago? So that means it started in 1979 the year I graduated from high school? In the 93-95 time frame, I was living in Little Rock AR and when I finally got connected somehow (my Voc Rehab counselor? my Mental health therapist? I really don't remember exactly how.), I found a group that was supposedly the Journal OA or some such name. Everyone there used a sort of burgandy ?? I think?? Journal paperback book. I may have it still around here. Had to go through and write out thoughts etc. And then at the meetings, people could choose whether to share things they had written in their book, or they could just share in general, or not share at all (pass.). I was already going through a huge mess emotionally and physically and mentally - had been divorced only a few years earlier, then had started dating a guy, then started back to college and finally finished with my degree, and then hooked up with a gal at a conference who told me about a master's degree program in Little Rock... and so then I was floundering in Little Rock without a social support system, no family, boyfriend still back home with his full time career (now my husband)... my parents going through a divorce and ironically my church was also going through a spiritual divorce... So it was all stressful. Oh and I hardly had any money so I was eating ramen noodles for most of my meals...studying all day and night and trying to make expensive long distance calls to my boyfriend etc. So it was a mess.

But since then, the OA website has been in and out of variations, and there doesn't seem to be a lot going on except on days that are not convenient and I don't seem to find any groups offering the "Journal" thing. I can't remember if I even saw a Journal for sale on the OA website - my sense was that was a program that had been discontinued. The other permutations you speak of, the HOW or whatever, I don't know what any of those are.

But yea, if you ever figure out the history from someone else, maybe on Facebook, I dunno?? it would be interesting. I say Facebook because for Wichita, KS there's a kind of Facebook Memories of Wichita in the older days "does anyone remember this or that ice cream store, now long gone? or this theater? or that snow event in the 1970's? or whatever... stuff like that. So I don't know if there's sort of a ad-hoc OA Historians group(s) on Facebook. Plus... that's assuming the English variants, because from what I understand, some of the OA was translated to other languages, Spanish primarily. I don't know if any of the other nations have an OA equivalent in their language??



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4/7/19 12:22 P

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Hi everybody,

I've been in and out (mostly in) of OA since 1993. I've done something people now call "traditional OA" (which I don't believe is the original, because the original OA used grey sheet), OA HOW, CEA HOW, and now greysheeters anonymous. I've heard there is a Food Addicts Anonymous. And, there is another one or two structured OA programs sort of like OA HOW and CEA HOW around.

I'm trying to figure out the history of all of these. It's never written about as far as I can tell. This may have a lot to do with people wanting to honor what the OA World Service Office and oa.org describes as officially endorsed OA meetings. I don't know that all the other permutations are recognized as officially endorsed by OA. Personally, I have liked having the different options, especially now that one does not need to live near any type of OA meeting to attend (phone meetings, online meetings, and now there's an international meeting on What's App I hear).

I was talking to an OA who has been in more than 40 years, who said she recalled when the OA World Service Office decided (there was a vote or group conscience) that grey sheet food plan was no longer endorsed by OA and people could define their own abstinence. She thought that would be problematic. And, for some it has been. Though I began in a "traditional OA" (which is really an OA meeting that goes by current OA endorsed literature and definitions) group and found recovery there, it did not last. I was much better off continuing to go, because it certainly did help and my weight was more under control. But, eventually I found I had to switch to a more structured approach, so did OA HOW, CEA HOW and now Greysheeters Anonymous which I think fits me best right now.

Anybody have experience with these?


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