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That is so me! I am only 4 days into this, but it makes so much sense. I enjoy my meals more because they are not tiny after counting snack calories in, or even taking me over my calorie intake limit. Thank you for sharing!

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Glad to hear it! Less frequent eating has been key for me, as you probably know.

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I read through most of the articles posted on this thread and they gave me LOTS of insight... Thank you!

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That is a great link. It's up somewhere on the Reinhard's site.

I know some people swear by snacking, but it's really not typical of slim societies. People are always saying that everyone is different. But honestly, if that were completely true, why would there be societies in which there are meal routines that result in a population much slimmer than ours? It's because their eating is "codified," and there is a fair amount of cultural pressure to comply. It is not left up to individual whims. In fact, they rarely eat alone in the first place. (Not sure how they pull this off, if they're single.) We, too, have cultural pressure, but it's exerted more by the manufactured food industry's interests. Gotta fight "the man!"

We have to create our own little culture of eating sanity!

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
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I was always eating! That is why I am overweight! It is taking me some time to get used to this, I have had a few do-overs, but I am getting it!
Here is a blog I found interesting.
www.intuitivebody.com/why-i-
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between-meals-ever/


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You're so welcome. Feel free to add a link to anything you stumble across, but don't feel obligated to go looking, either. There's other life to be lived between meals!

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
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Thank you for this thread.

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woah! that's the wrong link there!

Did you mean to post the John Douillard link about the no snacking?

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I posted the wrong link to a member's comment on another thread She caught it and corrected it above. Thanks, Gil!

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Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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I know this is much more restrictive than most people want to go - but I was reading the Whole 30 book, and they are also on the 3 meals bandwagon. Just adding in food restrictions in addition.

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Whether the scale moves or not, you will be doing yourself a favor. And there is more than one way to get yourself to no snacks. Some people go cold turkey, others go ahead and plan a small sane, easy snack at the hardest time of day. It depends on, I think, if you're the type to jump in the cold water or wade in. I'm a wader, but my "snack" was decaf mocha with stevia. Sometimes, I had two between lunch and dinner. I know of others who had raw veggies around 4.

But if you feel inspired, go for it! It may be hard, or not. There's just no way to predict.

Please join us on the How are you doing on NO S? thread to talk about it all . We are a small team so that's the best way to keep the energy focused and not let other threads just devolve into general discussions anyway. Looking forward to it!

And if you find any resources specifically about the wisdom of eating less often, please post the link or excerpt here. I never get tired of new resources telling us how smart we are!

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
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5/15/16 8:50 A

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Oh my gosh, this thread is SO helpful! I'm starting tomorrow (Monday May 16) and snacking is going to be the hardest for me. I am ALWAYS eating, not because I'm trying to "eat six small meals" but because my poor widda tummy gets a gwumble and must be fed. hahahaha

I've read the articles posted about letting leptin and insulin do their jobs, and letting the liver do what it does (provide a snack to the body) which happens if I let myself get hungry. Not having a grumble (appetite) but really getting hungry. Having the science behind this concept of not snacking is really getting me excited to give it a go. I bet the scale starts moving!

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My duty as I saw it. emoticon

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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I find this argument very motivating - the idea that I'm enabling my body to draw energy stored in the liver and ?clear triclycerides from the blood - sounds good to me! I'm going to practise confusing my leptin!

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I sent this out to the whole team, but wanted a place on the boards to have it to refer to as well.

From the Byron Richards site on eating to take advantage of the hunger regulating power of leptin.

"RULE 2: EAT THREE MEALS A DAY

Allow 5-6 hours between meals. Do not snack.

It is vital to create times during the day when small fat blobs, known as triglycerides, are cleared from your blood. If triglycerides build up during the day they physically clog leptin entry into your brain, causing leptin resistance – meaning that leptin cannot register properly in your subconscious command and control center. Your metabolism is not designed to deal with constant eating and snacking. Doing so confuses your metabolism and results in you eating much more than you really need. Eating too often is like a repetitive strain injury, like tennis elbow but in this case leptin elbow.

Yes, you are supposed to get a snack between meals – but it is supposed to come from your liver. This is how your body naturally clears triglycerides from your blood. Besides that fact that these fat blobs confuse leptin, they are also headed in the direction of your hips, thighs, and stomach. So breaking them down and clearing them out is vital, and this only happens when you allow 5-6 hours between meals. When you clear your circulatory highways of extra fat during the day then leptin works better. When you do a great job during the day then you are much more likely to break down and burn stored fat from your hips and thighs while you are sleeping.

Snacking turns out to be one of the worst things you can do. It doesn’t matter how many calories you snack on, when you snack you throw powerful hormonal switches that cause leptin to malfunction. The fictitious idea that snacking is needed to stoke your metabolism or maintain your blood sugar is in no small part behind dietary advice that has helped cause an epidemic of obesity."

Try not to feel you have to spend a lot of time on this. Have faith that you are doing good things, UNLESS you have some complicating health issue, in which case you should probably be under the care of a doctor. Spend time on the rest of your life BETWEEN your meals!


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*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
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*Get to the next meal hungry!
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2/7/16 11:57 P

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Best evidence I can report against snacking is sitting next to me on this loveseat, all 390 lbs of him. He snacks so often that any benefit from the healthy meals I make for us are ruined. He is hopelessly addicted to fat; any spreads he uses are laid on thick.
I am working on figuring out optimal meal sizes to keep my blood sugar as stable as possible (I have mild diabetes w/ a very annoying tendency to lows) w/o snacking--did very well today but our meal schedule was far from our usual. If I get genuinely, growling, cramping hungry I must eat something or I won't be able to sleep; Saturday night the carton of yogurt was plenty. I also risk low blood sugar at night if hungry and I don't eat. All still a work in progress.

Edited by: SUGARFREEBIE at: 2/8/2016 (00:15)
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However, I will say that we did have snack time at school between the start time and lunch time. Once a month, we skipped that to go to church and I remember that I got really hungry and my lunch sandwich tasted so wonderful!

I'm so glad I'm not a parent of young children. So challenging!

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Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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Great, Ali! It's just that some people are convinced that they NEED to eat more often for physical reasons, and that ignoring the urges when bored, upset, or needy will lead to more eating later.

I LOVE that you found it it just isn't true.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
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This is more of a personal statement than a link to scientific evidence. If I snack, I am MUCH less likely to eat healthy full meals. And I rarely chose healthy food for my snack. Snacking (for me) became an emotional comfort instead of healthy fuel for my body. I snacked because I was bored at work, because I was upset, because I wanted a sweet treat reward like a little kid being rewarded by a parent. If I tried a healthy snack (like veggie sticks) I was not satisfied.

I can get the same comforting results (emotional comfort and a nice break) with hot tea or coffee -- and I don't feel slightly sick from eating the wrong foods or from eating too much (as often happened with snacks)

Not snacking is the number one change that has helped me keep off weight instead of regaining.

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*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
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10/23/15 6:35 A

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OK I've saved the link to this thread so I can read the links in it later but

for me a good reason to not snack is that a lot of snack foods (even fresh fruit) has a high sugar content and it is a lot better for your teeth to not have to deal with that all the time. I brush my teeth after breakfast and after my evening meal so they are clean most of the time.

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I don't subscribe to his recommendations about what needs to go on your plate, and I wish he hadn't talked about dinosaur snacks since humans and dinosaurs never shared the same space, but I like the other stuff!
www.nocrave.com/fm_small_meal_myth.p
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Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
ndividual.asp?gid=1323


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Actually, the best evidence to me is the fact that most slim cultures do not snack much. They know intuitively that you can't leave eating up to the individual or to random choice and should have cultural practices for reining in eating. Some day I'll gather some of the official references.

Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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rebootedbody.com/snacking/

This one hits the high notes, talking a little about leptin resistance and true hunger.

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Thanks for starting this thread! Just the other day I was considering a blog post titled exactly, "The Case Against Snacking" but then I held back pending further supporting documentation. How timely!

I will post any links I find in my research as well. It seems our society is fed the snacking line so much that we'll have to wade through oceans of articles touting the same, tired pro-snacking agenda to find the support for our case against it. The best, most utterly undeniable proof for me, though, is that I just feel so much better without snacking.

Looking forward to any links people share!

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On this thread, feel free to post links to any research, blogs or other posts supporting the wisdom of not snacking.

For example: www.huffingtonpost.com/jj-virgin/sna
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ing-weight-loss_b_2940998.html


Seven years of maintaining a 20% weightloss and counting.
*To seek happiness, identifying the Self with the body, is like trying to cross a river on the back of a crocodile." Ramana Maharshi
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats.
8 years and counting! nosdiet.com/
*Get to the next meal hungry!
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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