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has anyone watched the Ponderosa videos? Has there been a mention of Dan

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I am glad Dan is gone and this season is almost over

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I just wish there had been a way to remove him so Elaine could have another chance.

I read that the reunion will also be pre-recorded this time due to the material sensitivity and security.

I sure hope they pull KeeLee into a second chance season as she would have seen more days without all the Dan stuff.

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ISLAND OF IDOLS
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Agree DIANE!

“ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: The title card that ended the episode — “Dan was removed from the game after a report of another incident, which happened off-camera and did not involve a player” — was very short and very general in the sense that an incident can mean pretty much anything. What can you tell us about what happened off-camera with Dan that led to you all pulling him from the game?
JEFF PROBST: The question is a fair and reasonable one. I’ve endeavored to be as forthcoming as possible with you regarding everything that has happened this season. In this situation, out of respect for privacy and confidentiality, I can’t say anymore.”
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I am glad to see Dan gone. He should have been gone a long time ago. After production talked to him the first time he should have been voted off. It made me sick to see how people came to Dans defense and they should be made accountable for their actions too. UGH to the rest of the season

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Here's what Jeff had to say about the Dan situation.

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Great Show this week. Smart voting!

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I am sure production made sure the show moved on from the Dan event too as two hours offered up for it's important statement was enough or viewers would definitely be fleeing fast.



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well the game has moved on from dan so I guess I can too I really liked last night show.

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I was happy for something to work out in Karishma's favor, but will she be able to do anything more? This was her one burst in the spotlight from the whole season.

I'm so glad the spotlight is off Janet now so she can just play the game. I really like her too.

That was a smart move on Dean's part with re-writing the non-advantage. Now, he can do it again just to throw people off knowing it isn't real.

Have loved the weekly blindsides the entire season!

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Ha ha ha Lauren...I'm not a fan of her. I loved their faces at tribal...good job Karishma! And thank goodness the "advantage" for Dean came to light...lol. I can't stand most of the players...except Janet & Karishma, the rest are hard to tolerate. Elaine...go ahead and roll with them until they don't need you anymore...see how that works out for ya.

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No! I keep planning to watch those. Maybe I can do that tomorrow.

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has anyone watched the Ponderosa videos yet?

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I watch this latest espoused online and I enjoyed it but I do not like it that dan is still in the game.

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I had read that article last night Katie and found it interesting. Sounds like most of the changes will come from production crew monitoring.


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Interesting article.

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Well, if Janet gets voted off because of what those girls caused... emoticon

If that does happen though and they have another season with those who didn't make it further she should be invited.

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Dan is probably going to get to the end which is not right he should be sent home. I feel bad for janet she was trying to do the right thing and now she has a target on her back, this season just went downhill for me.

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I can’t connect through the link you left. Some others may not either.

Here’s some of what Aaron said at Tribal found on ew.com KATIE3908 was sharing.


““Jeff, I just wanna make it clear, this was a Survivor play that went wrong for Janet,” Aaron said of Janet voting to send Dan home, which she was told was how all the women were going to vote.
“I disagree. If you know anything about it, you would not…” Janet interjected.
“I know a lot about it. I know a lot about it. A lot,” Aaron said in response. “And what’s happening now is that the victim role is being assigned by Janet and instead of taking responsibility…is trying to spin this into something that could potentially affect the life of Dan. If this was truly a general tribe concern I would have been involved, Tommy would have been involved, Dean would have been involved.”


I also found this on ew.com today.
“Survivor: Island of the Idols contestant Aaron Meredith apologized Thursday on social media for his role in a controversial tribal council that aired Wednesday in which the tribe discussed some female tribemates’ allegations of inappropriate touching by fellow competitor Dan Spiro.”

Also Elizabeth has apologized on Twitter
“To Kellee. I was sick to my stomach watching the episode and seeing how much pain you were in,” Elizabeth tweeted. “I wholeheartedly apologize to you for using your accusations against Dan for gameplay. In no world is that acceptable, and I take full responsibility for my actions, and lack thereof.”

Missy and Lauren have also apologized.

The information was quoted from this link.

www.usmagazine.com

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I don't remember what Aaron said. I'll have to go back and watch tribal council again.

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I remember that incident with the guy sleeping and rubbing up against a female contestant

They have had the same problem on Big Brother too

The whole sexual climate has changed in the work place too. I got in trouble for hugging a gf. She was upset and I gave her a hug and she clung to me as she cried. Someone saw it and reported it saying we were being sexual.... Another time I was massaging a gf shoulders as we stood in line and she said 'harder and oh baby' YEP someone ran and reported us because they were offended. Our boss rolled her eyes and said to watch it and can I massage her shoulders when no one is looking.....lol I am so glad I am retired.

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Survivor has had quite a few incidents like this.
Richard Hatch offended Sue Hawk when he rubbed against her during a Challenge in the first All Stars season for one. He was nude. The nudity during a Challenge (or at all) shouldn’t have been allowed to begin with. Sue later quit the game with an emotional breakdown. Another was way back on Season 5, Survivor Thailand, a woman player accused a man player of being “too familiar” with her while sleeping. He apologized and claimed he didn’t know what he was doing in his sleep.

I would think inappropriate talk or actions or definitely touching would be in the basic rules of the game as reasons to be asked to leave the game. I fault the show and producers for allowing the disrespect of others to go on. As we were shown, Jeff Probst did address it initially when it was first reported as they stated. They are filmed 24/7 and there is no excuse for it, especially when used in game play.

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Wonder if they edited the footage later to show that there were earlier moments in the season to back up the "why" behind what happened in the recent episode. Whew! It's amazing they haven't dealt with this issue before after all these season with people running around in their undies.

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I was uncomfortable with the show last night. They did show footage that Dan was inappropriate with his touching. At the same time when someone touches you in a spot you say something THEN and not wait

The live show will be interesting

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Oooohhh Kellee...I'm sorry you were so confident and maybe greedy to play one of your idols...eek! So sorry to see Jamal go, I like him. But his "fake advantage" totally got moved aside thanks to the awful direction the show took :(

Those girls should be ashamed of themselves!!! Last week, there were a few of them talking how Dan was too touchy feely...they took it too far. I am also rooting for Janet from here on. The look on Missy's face at tribal...it looked like regret? remorse? And Liz, ugh.



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Sadly ....yes.

Read the interview on Entertainment Weekly with Jeff Probst and Dalton Ross.
www.ew.com

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I don't think they should have placed the focus of the tribal on that issue as the powers that be had already indicated individual conversations with everyone and that they were keeping an eye out for anything. That should have been enough, but I guess since it was a hot topic on the island with everyone they had to do it. I can't believe those women would use such a serious issue as game play and honestly, was it?

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So was I Janet.

But after watching last night and reading Jeff Probst’s interview on Entertainment Weekly, I am very very disappointed with how the second part of the show and Tribal was handled by the producers. Dan, Missy and Elizabeth should have all been asked to leave the game. It’s going to be hard for me to watch the rest of this season.

I’m definitely rooting for the player Janet now.

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This has been a GREAT season! Can't wait for tomorrow night!

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this season is really getting good and now the merge

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Next week
Wednesday November 13th
there will be 2 hours of Survivor.

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Nice article.

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Great tribal once again! Knew the merge was coming soon, but thought we might have another week. Here's the question now....will Dean turn on Kellee now that they are playing for themselves as he knows what a calculating player she actually is? Hmmmmm

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Yes, the merge is next week.

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BRAVO Kellee, BRAVO!!! I loved it...it could have gone so horribly wrong...but it didn't. Merge is next week, right?

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But Elaine was over-eager for sure! It could have gone so horribly the other way for her! LOL

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I think the fact rob and Sandra are there makes the players want toplay and not even care what the challenge is.

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Never good to lose people at an early age. When you look at the number of players over the past almost 20 years odds are we’d have some losses. But, sad yes, to have lost any of them especially to an accident a questionable death and a suicide.
According to Wikipedia, 590 contestants have played the American version of Survivor since the show first premiered in May of 2000.

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Amazing how most of them were all tragic endings instead of just passing on from life.

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Sadly Rudy Boesch, an original Survivor player from Season One, has passed away. Famous for his alliance with first winner Richard Hatch. He was 91. Rudy, who passed on Saturday from Alzheimer’s, was not the first player we’ve lost who played Survivor.

Quote is from People.com
“In 2010, Jenn Lyon, who placed fourth on Survivor: Palau, died after a six-year battle with breast cancer. Original Survivor contestant BB Andersen died of brain cancer in 2013 at age 77. In 2014, 26-year-old Blood vs. Water contestant Caleb Bankston was killed in a railway accident. Survivor Gabon contestant Dan Kay died in 2017, and Survivor: China’s Ashley Massaro died of suicide earlier this year.”

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I still wonder if Elaine could have waited to reveal her hand. She got lucky that her original team stuck with her!

Next time they have that type of advantage I would like that it could be played after Jeff asks for immunity idols. They then let him know whose vote is cancelled by writing it on the advantage. All the players can be told that someone's vote will be cancelled. Production would be able to pull that off easily. There has to be another way to make it a true advantage.

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Yes, I wasn’t a fan of that advantage having to be read before the votes to block someone. Glad it went the way it did too. Elaine really earned it grabbing it durning the challenge. Glad she used it wisely since they had targeted her.

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Gotta love Tribal blindsides! I didn't like how Elaine went about using her advantage. I think it would have been better to wait until the very last second when Jeff announced "if anyone has...." AND there should be a rule that the others cannot visit verbally once it is played. I don't really think the end votes changed though from what was initially decided, but probably just to ensure that all were still voting for Elaine. Glad the vote went the way it did and SO glad the one guy stayed with the very strong tribe alliance!

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I knew it would be one of the three that went this time and when they started talking about a older person I guess it was going to be tom. I not sad to get a break from rob and Sandra I bet we see them today I can not believe it Wednesday again already, The ads seem interesting and it only a couple of hours now before it comes on.
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I watched it again with the hubby last night and they didn't say anything....as far as we know.

I don't like that Karishma is just being drug along as a non-vote at the end. Please get her off the island!

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I just watched it again and no, I don’t believe either one did. Keelee said she didn’t want to take Dean to the merge and she only told Noura and Janet that Dean was with her on voting.

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Yes, it is interesting that the producers didn't know about the Keelee/Dean connection. I can't remember...did they tell the others?

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Yes, thank you for sharing KATIE. I usually try to read Jeff’s comments on that site. Good place to get the background info.

Answering your question JANET.....
For most of them I don’t think it’s good to over share. I think the players are going to be sorry they shared so much later in the game. It’s a mistake we’ve seen first time players make. Some of them are just chatty anyway. Interesting the Survivor producers missed the outside connection between Dean and Keelee. This will probably hurt them both in the long run.

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Thanks Katie! That's pretty much what I thought about the lack of Idols this week.

Karishma dodged a bullet, but her "skill" at challenges has already shown her as not helpful to the tribe as a whole.

What do you think of so many of the people immediately sharing previous tribal lines and details while begging to flip?

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This article answers a lot of questions.

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Well I’m glad they only stayed in two tribes this time. When they split into three tribes it usually spells doom for the new third tribe that has to start all over. But I am so disappointed no one went to the Island of Idols this week. What’s the point if it’s not going to be done every week?

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I had no idea of who was going this time.

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Same! I am enjoying this season more than the past couple. It's fun seeing if the advice from the Idols is played out well or not. Noura sure messed it up with her lie. LOL

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I am really hooked this season and love the meetings with the previous players. (on the island) (Rob and Sandra)
I haven't decided yet who I am rooting for.

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I really thought tom was going to go but whoever made the point about playing the idol is right with only two tribals to play it better to be safe than sorry.

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Oh, and I LOVED the balance-beam/see-saw portion of the challenge this week. What a unique concept. Requires careful movement, balance, teamwork, communication, etc. Really great to see how the tribes worked together to get those bags untied. Missy is doing really well in challenges I've noticed. I hope that doesn't put a target on her as the merge approaches, or after the merge.

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I also love watching Janet and Elizabeth swim! I think it is awesome that there are 2 really great swimmers. It is fun to see them dominate the swimming aspect, although Janet had some difficulty untying the knots underwater.

I really want Karishma to go soon. I knew she was trouble from the first episode, when Missy (I believe it was Missy) brought up to the girls, the idea of an all-women's alliance, and Karishma said something like "at least for this first part" or something of that nature. Ummmmm well that clearly means Karishma didn't like the idea from the get-go and will likely be the first woman to flip on the other women. emoticon I'd rather have Karishma go soon, before she has a chance to screw over everyone else's game.

I really wish we would have been able to see what conversation Vince and Elizabeth had, once Vince got back from Island of the Idols. He clearly knows Elizabeth was lying about her experience on the island. I wonder if Vince told anyone, or if he and Elizabeth made a pact to keep it a secret? Maybe that's another reason Elizabeth wanted Vince gone -- so that she could continue her lies about what is really going on at Island of the Idols.

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Katie~I was just shaking my head when he sat there and didn't play his hard-earned idol! He was definitely too trusting of those girls and forgot one important thing....if you are away from the tribe you will be discussed.

I enjoyed watching the Olympic swimmer and the Lifeguard race in the water. Pretty amazing how close they were the entire time!

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Vince is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Why would he not play the idol!? He only had two tribal's to use it and there is no guarantee they would go back to tribal next time. Plus, why would he trust the girl alliance??? Oh well, guess he learned his lesson the hard way.

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Great Show! Loved the Challenge last night. It was a hard one.

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The remaining Survivors are ready ----- are you?

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I keep forgetting to post my opinions here - but I do watch the show each week and it has been interesting. Love seeing Rob and Sandra again.

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I read last night that they were redoing the beginning of the show as they had a lot of complaints about too many "previews" that give away what's coming up. Honestly....I fast forward so no idea!

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Just surprised ...even Jeff was worried.

Anyone else notice the new opening of the show?

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That's good background to the ladder challenge! Thanks so much Barb.

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Jeff Probst told Entertainment Weekly This:

“ I am on edge during challenges like this because of exactly what happened — Molly fell off twice! I don’t remember if it happened in rehearsals or not but, even without swells, it could easily happen. But… to be fair, we are in the water with a sandy bottom, and it’s plenty deep. So the chances of an injury were not high, you just fall in the water and then get back on the ladder. But you wouldn’t know that if you were monitoring my heart rate!”

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Barb~Yes! That ladder challenge was dangerous for the team who kept having issues keeping it upright!

Beth~I figure they will stop reading it, but want to be sure viewers have the chance to know about it as not everyone saw the first episode...maybe? LOL But yes....enough of that for our bunch! emoticon

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enjoying Sandra and rob just wish they skip reading the oath of the idols outload all the time once was enough. I agree the ladder did seem dangerous. I like how the season is going so farthe blindsides make it more interesting.

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Great show again and yes they made the right choice. What a blindside!
Anyone else think that ladder in the water for the challenge was really dangerous? Glad no one got hurt.

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Hey group!

I loved last night's Tribal!!! I'm so glad they shook things up, I hate to see the masses follow a few like sheep. She was so sure of herself...lol...bye-bye!

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emoticon PERFECT CHOICE AT TRIBAL!!!!!

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Rewatching the show tonight with DH and DD. I had missed that the original alliance had planned to place 6 votes on Rhonnie so it wasn't out of the blue at tribal after all.

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Barb~I am in agreement with you about Sandra and the overall concept.

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Agree ladies. Ronnie must have been making most of the tribe feel he couldn’t be trusted.

Loved Boston Rob and Sandra! Who knew she could be so kind and patient? I loved the show and really enjoyed the part where Elizabeth competed with Boston Rob to win an Immunity.
Hated that she had to loose a vote to do it. Wish they’d come up with this concept of past players helping new ones before. What a positive welcome relief from last season.

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I agree. His name never came up yet almost everyone voted for him. We were completely in the dark on this one.

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There must have been more to the story for that guy to be chosen without the audience really knowing much. I was thankful the factory worker gal wasn't sent home yet.

And what about the "senior" on the other tribe? She's strong and has endurance. She'll be one to watch!

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I'm happy with who went. He seemed creepy to me.

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Just finished the show. SO good! I don't know if I like who went home or not, but then again, it's always too early for someone to go as we are barely getting to know them. Don't want to say too much tonight in case some haven't seen the show yet.

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I am very happy with who went. I like how Elizabeth made it sound like ghost island.

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Just getting things ready.

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