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7/5/09 11:56 P

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One word... reform.



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7/5/09 9:09 P

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I was just thinking of wasteful spending. I live in a pretty good nieghborhood. I don't have the money like most do here though. During the summer a couple of years ago they did a beautification of the public school. They put in a new walk way and put in this nice entry way to sit and wait for the children outside the elementry school. The catch with schools from what I understand is if they dont use certain money they recieve they loose it. I think that is wrong. The school really didn't need this done. It wasn't a nescesity really. But the district new they had to use it or loose it. Why couldn't this money be put away and only do what is needed. Like maybe a broken toilet etc.

My school district is having summer school, but it has been limited in time and amount of kids being able to attend. Thier are some school districts that are not having summer school. That money spent on beautification should of been thier for the kids.

We have to look at the wasteful spending carefully. But thier are more wasteful spending. Going to certain groups that would never have anything to do with most of us.

I am not a Democrat or a Republican. But from my understanding Democrats don't want to cut services and would rather raise taxes that would affect us all. Republicans don't want to raise taxes, but want to cut services.

When the economy was good California had a good tax basis. But they didn't have anything on reserve to help out on situations like this. They are not getting the taxes that they use to, becuase everyone is hurting.



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7/4/09 9:01 P

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I have no answers -- only questions!

I am not losing this fat - I am removing it for good.

"Our ultimate freedom is the right and power to decide how anybody or anything outside ourselves will affect us."

"Change your thoughts and change your world"


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7/4/09 7:26 P

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I'm stayin out of this one...sounds like..you got it covered...lol....

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7/4/09 6:14 P

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California has the largest population of White Americans in the U.S. ...ummmm... WHAT?! emoticon

California has the largest minority population in the United States.

If California were a separate country, it would rank among the ten largest economies in the world, with a GDP similar to that of Italy, and it would be 35th among the most populous countries.

Soooo...let me get this right... California has the highest White population in the nation. It has the highest minority population (which for the most part USUALLY translates into cheaper labor). California, as of 2008-2009 has a $16 billion deficit.... wait... they have more revenue coming in than most everyone else, but have no money to pay the bills... wait no, that's not right... is that right?

CLEARLY a mis-management issue. Sounds to me like champagne taste on a caviar budget where gov't. is concerned. Fire 'em all, and start over...then figure out a budget that lives within its means. Somebody, somewhere is sitting with a whole lot of bread (and I don't mean the kind you eat)...The very thing I would push for would be to write out IOU's for the politicians. Pay the vendors first. The politicians made the bed, why are the people letting the vendors lay in it?



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7/4/09 5:51 P

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Special interest has hurt the state a lot. I think they said the other day that California is the 8th world economy. That would mean we have slipped, becuase California use to be the FIFTH WORLD ECONOMY. That is one reason California is important to the rest of the United States. Alone it is one of richest world economies without any of the other states.

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7/4/09 1:37 P

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*giggle*



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Ok, I'll weigh in here with one little thought. Anyone with any common sense knows what the problem is in California. Nobody wants to do anything about it though because of fear. Fear of doing the right thing. It may not be the "politically correct" or "culturally popular" thing to do but we all know it's the right thing to do. I think you know what I'm talking about but I'm stopping right there and getting back to my push-ups and crunches. LOL... stevo5o


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7/4/09 12:27 P

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California is not friendly to business so they leave for a cheaper economic climate. So leaves the tax base. Unfortunately we have many people who do come over the border unregulated. They don't produce taxes but they use services that cost the state money. So basically there are less to pay in and more to take out. It is a real problem.

I am not losing this fat - I am removing it for good.

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7/4/09 11:23 A

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I think California and all states need to be required to operate on a balanced budget. California has created this mess they are in and should NOT be allowed to use IOU's. If the state would stop trying to show off and out do everyone else , and if they would get real with their laws and state expenses, then they wouldn't need so much money to make ends meet. No state should be allowed to operate in thje red and if they do, the law should require them to cut expenses, not allow them to find new ways to get more money from the people.

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7/3/09 10:12 P

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Steve, You are so cool.



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7/3/09 10:04 P

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Touche' my friend...Touche'. stevo5o


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7/3/09 6:37 P

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Me too. emoticon



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7/3/09 6:31 P

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I love a good conversation. Too bad so many people do not speak thier mind. I see special interest in a lot of areas. Whenever you see things on t.v. you almost think that is the way everyone thinks, becuase that is the view thier showing. But I get suprised sometimes when a law passes or doesn't pass and you never heard that so many people thought this way. We sit thier idilly watching. That to me is sad.

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7/3/09 6:17 P

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Cool...then we agree to disagree... I'm good with it. emoticon

I do understand your aspect and point of view but still want to leave the door open to those who wish to vent about anything that could trigger emotional eating, political or otherwise. Politics seems to play a bigger role in our lives more and more every day. It certainly does in mine anyway. Maybe that's because my son is a Marine, I lost my oncologist to a corrupt state medical board permeated with conflicts of interest, and my daughter fell victim to Acetaminophen poisoning because she took Acetaminophen for a hangover which nearly killed her. Had the label warning read differently, I would have reacted differently and the outcome would have been different... all this of course leads back to politics, because the FDA approved the label, which is now under intense scrutiny... should I even mention the lobbyists in Washington that navigate on behalf of big pharmaceutical companies?....I really shouldn't, it's a whole other can of worms...forget I mentioned it.

It seems to me that most everything that has been devastating in my life leads back to politics in one way or another...and believe me when I say, I HATE politics, but that does not mean I will shy away from fighting for what's blatantly right. The only way, unfortunately, to change it, is to get involved. I am currently working with a friend to change social hosting laws in our state, and working to bring to light the deadly toxicity of acetaminophen when mixed with alcohol. Make no mistake, I hate the red tape of it all. Despise it to be honest...but I am also not going to passively take it anymore. I am the single most politically incorrect person I know. I cannot even begin to describe the sense of loss I feel in regards to the aforementioned situations... not to mention the abyss I have tried to fill with food because of it. We the people are, for the most part, unheard in this nation. Yet we are paying the biggest prices...and I don't mean financially. This forum opens just one way to get it out, to be heard, and to not feel so "run over" by the powers that be...and I will no longer allow it to have the power to trigger emotional eating.

I apologize for my "bad" choice of words... I am a cut to the chase sort of gal. I say it like I see it and don't care to pussy foot around the fire so to speak. emoticon I rarely mince words, as you may be able to tell, and I have a tendency to articulate metaphorically. So no offense was intended. I can be abrupt at times and I appreciate those who are direct with me, as you have been.

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KIPPY_63, I see your point but again SQUELCH and REGULATE are two bad choices of words. I ASKED if we could refrain from talking politics. I wouldn't dare attempt to try and squelch anybody or regulate any discussion.

I bantered about politics on another team's board and oh the fury it caused. People got angry and left...people from both sides. I don't want that to happen to this team...and that's the reason I stopped. I know I have new friends on this team that do not agree with me about politics. None the less, they are important to me in my journey to wellness. I don't want to jeopardize that support and encouragement by arguing about something we will never agree on that will just cause more stress.

I hope you understand my point. I think you and I may be on the same page with some political issues but I will respectfully refrain from bringing them up here. That's my choice and you're free to exercise your choice. I can't and don't even want to control what is talked about on this team's boards. But, if that's your way of fighting your battle with EE...more power to you. stevo5o


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7/3/09 3:19 P

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Hey Steve, I have to disagree with you on this one... The recession is one of the biggest issues many of our EE members are facing. Job loss, wage decrease, cost of living increase, etc translates into a lot of emotions and can have a devastating impact health-wise... (I read a study recently that found that two industry's thrive in a recession, tobacco and alcohol...I have to believe food is right up there with them) if you ask me, this has to be the forum where people need to dump here, vent, but do it respectfully.... I for one, am feeling the crunch of the recession...but maybe not as much as others are. I am in this for weight loss and to get healthy, but one of the reasons I am here is because I am an emotional eater...and what triggers those emotions for me may not be the same for you...as is also how I deal with those emotions. For many of us, politics in this country is triggering emotions that we are struggling to deal with in our every day lives. I would rather opt to not respond than to try to squelch those triggers... If we regulate one topic, where does it stop? This is of course, only my opinion, and like rear ends, we all have one...

Respectfully,
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7/3/09 8:30 A

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Freedom of speech is not the issue here. Of course it's a wonderful thing and hundreds of thousands have laid down their lives for it.

However, losing the encouragement and friendship of members of our weight loss support system are not worth a few...shall we say...miss-chosen words.

I'm a very conservative person but I'm not here on this team to talk politics, and I know I wasn't invited to be one of the leaders because of my political leanings. I'm here to lose weight and then maintain that weight loss.

Many people, including very liberal people, have helped me and are helping me on my journey. I know that there are topics we cannot discuss because we will not now or ever agree on them. There is one topic we can agree on...and that is weight loss. That is what EE is about.

That's why I created a topic about a pact not to discuss politics and asked everyone to sort of abide by it. I figured that it was no use starting arguments nobody will win. I got involved in one earlier and saw that it wasn't going anywhere so I backed off and asked others on the team to do so as well. Just sort of an honor and respect thing on my part.

KIPPY_63...believe me when I say that there is no one who respects the sacrifice your son and you and your family are making for us more than I do. I love and respect members of our military forces and their families. I too have family members serving our country in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I just respectfully ask myself, you, and all others to try and stay focused on our biggest problem...Emotional Eating. I can't force anybody to do anything and I don't want to. All I know is that I want to lose weight and keep it off. And, I'll take any and all help I can get from anybody...liberal or conservative.

I happen to have a very strong opinion about the California issue, but I'm keeping it to myself on this team's board. I'm sure there are many other teams on sparkpeople that were specifically created for topics just like that. I'm just "politely asking" EE members to agree to not post political issues. I know that all 180,000 members have not seen the pact topic, so I'm asking that everyone take a look at it.

Again, thanks KIPPY_63 for your sacrifice.

Sincerely and with much respect,
stevo5o


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7/3/09 1:30 A

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In order to forget it, you have to make it... I did not make a pact. (I am so naughty...)As my son fights in Operation Strike of the Sword, I cannot abstain from politics in any form... freedom of speech is a beautiful thing... he's fighting for it...and I plan to honor it. Sorry...

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Ah! Ah! Ah! We forgot our pact! stevo5o


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I can understand, and relate to every thing that was posted here. It really is dishearting when you work all of your life,but make to much for any help, and the poor get better insurance,food stamps, there needs to be more middle ground some where. I sure don't claim to have the answer's but they said it would get alot worse before better. God Bless P.S. It does not matter what party it is to me either.

My first short term goal is to lose 20 pound's.

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I cannot imagine the cost of living in CA. It's bad enough here in PA. If I lived in CA, I would look for another place to live. Good weather isn't worth the price of high taxes, smog and traffic jams.

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7/2/09 7:57 P

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I would boycott the county and shop else where.

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I live in California. I am not demorcrat or republican. They are arguing up in Sacromento about raising taxes or cutting servise. Personally for me I say cut the services. I don't know what that would intell fully. But if I had to choose one it would be this. I can't afford higher taxes to support other people. I am middle class, but some times the poor live better than me. Why do you ask? Becuase poor people recieve services while me classified as middle class don't. So all are hard work don't count as much. I might as well be poor and not work as hard and get the services. I have been poor before so I do know the difference of being clasified poor or middle class. No more taxes I say. The raised the taxes in L.A. county yesterday I think. I know some cities are paying 10.75% on sales tax.

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7/2/09 6:20 P

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"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Let's use the term "illegal immigrants"... it isn't just Mexicans. I dislike finger pointing as it annotates racism. This country was built on illegal immigrants. After all, they took this country from the Native Americans if you want to get particular...

There is a better way to solve these issues other than blaming others for our own mismanagement...the first step is to understand where the mismanagement resides, and fix it...then move on from there...

I believe we are better than this.



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7/2/09 5:59 P

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Cslifornia needs to stop supporting the illegal mexican people. then they would have more money to use.

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i heard on the news this morning that the state of california is giving out iou's to their vendors because the state has no money. how are these vendors going to pay their bills with these iou's? this recession is getting bad but a state like california can get away with giving out iou's. will the mortgage company, electric company, gas company, telephone company & the supermarket take an iou from me?

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