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I have this book. I will need to re read it though. It is on my Kindle so I forgot about it until I saw the name of it in this team. Thanks for reminding me! LOL

Love, Live, Sing, Dance...Be healthy!

We are motivated by reward, so if we look forward to the reward, we will have the stamina we need to keep pressing toward our goal.
“Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.”
Ephesians 4:29 (NIV)

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I got my book in the mail a few weeks ago

The pain passes ~ only the beauty remains...


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YES!

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God moves in mysterious ways!!! LOL Will we be doing chapter 3? Should we start in June?

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Watching Joyce's TV program this morning, in my heart I received the message, "OK, time to get back to this book discussion!"

Near the end of the program, guess what came up as her special offer! Yep, this book!
(for a gift of $20 or more)

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that is clever …. emoticon

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Hi ladies - I have a word doc for all my SP stuff and draft posts in it.
Ok I will find the exercise thread.
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Cherriet, That is a great idea to copy and paste longer posts.

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Oh, yes! That is so totally frustrating. It's happened to me multiple times and I don't know what 'wrong' key I hit that made me lose everything...and it seems to happen most frequently when I'm writing more than a few sentences.

Lost the long one I was posting this morning (and I shared some up-close-and-personal) Ugh!!!! So I opened a Word document, re-wrote the entire message, then copied & pasted it to this page. That's what I think I'll start doing when I know I'm going to write a longer message.


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1/6/19 5:26 A

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I went to post the other day and somehow hit a wrong button. And everything disappeared.
In the chapter let God do the heavy lifting, I am focusing on Begin Each Day with an Affirmation. I typed up the one in the book.

I need to ponder the question she posed: "How many prisons of our do we mistake for shelters?" It will be a tough question to answer.

I have the kindle edition of the book so I took the list in Appendix B and made a weekly chart and adding several items to the list.

I am praying for lasting change with this book.

Have a blessed day Ladies.


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hi Annie,
I'm glad you didn't truly fall down.

There have been several ladies actually fall down between 50 and up.

Before I forget Cherriet asked me to mention the herb I tried for sleep. It is Valerian Root. They use it in Europe and Germany. It need to be standardized and have 8 percent of the active ingredient. Most people take 1-5. which that depends on the potency . It has no side effects, other than a few people are sensitive to the plant. It seems to me, that people with high blood pressure can't take it.

Let me know if I answered your questions. I thought there was another one, but that was the specifics about the balance/ core strength thing.

Anne you are doing better than I am.

I did stop eating the treats, have had some veggies, and need to figure out exercise goals.

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There have been studies that have found that sugar is more addictive than cocaine.
The group of researchers conducting the study found that sugar surpasses what is called “cocaine reward” in most mammals, including rats and humans.

Let's be exercise buddies and post our progress & support in the "Did you exercise today?" topic. Maybe that will give other lurkers to join us.

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Perhaps I ought to clarify - when I said "I fall down when hubby is away" I didn't mean literally! I meant my eating goes haywire. Expressions!...

Sue - I also would like energy, health, and to age better. I read a strength training article recently, and some of the links. Very helpful articles for a newbie like me. I started strength training - very important especially for old*er* people like me (55). I started by reading this article sparkpeople.com/blog/blog.asp?post=y
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and then I read two of the articles suggested in that -

sparkpeople.com/resource/fitness_art
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and

sparkpeople.com/blog/blog.asp?post=y
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which has links to 7 ten minute strength training videos suitable for beginners. I looked through them and I think I can do it all if I modify one or two of the exercises. For my first go I just did the standing strength training exercises and a short walk to the local supermarket, 20 minutes exercise altogether.

Our new home has a concrete floor so I will treat myself to my first ever exercise mat at the weekend. The first video is a 10 minute indoor cardio workout which will be handy for when we are travelling or icy days.

Some of the exercises are done sitting down, you might find them worth looking at. Perhaps we can be exercise buddies? We don't have to do the same exercise - just commit to doing it a certain number of days. I will if you will kinda thing. What do you think?

Anyhow - I think it was in these articles that I saw how proper form when exercising prevents injuries - and the lady in the videos is very good at explaining how to do the exercise properly. I believe strength training is important for building muscle and improving balance and making it less likely you will fall or injure yourself. Apparently we lose muscle as we get older (starting in our 20s...). The only equipment you need for the videos is a couple of cans of beans (I'm using 500ml bottles of water).

CherrieT - have you read Joyce's "Me and My Big Mouth"? I'm reading it at the moment. Have read it a couple of times before. Very helpful. Yes I am guilty of too much sitting too... The 1 pound lost 4 pounds off the knees comment is helpful. A very good incentive. As far as sugar is concerned - it is very hard to cut it out altogether - it is in most foods - but once off it, it is easy to stay off it, but also, one or two deviations and it is hard to stop again. I'm sure it has addictive qualities. And it comes disguised under about 100 different names...

Well ladies my hubby is very helpful. Eats 3 meals with occasional snacks if he needs them. Is happy to eat whatever I give him most of the time. There are only a few things he doesn't like. As I said before - I have issues when he is away. He works from home and just him being here helps me eat reasonably well most of the time. I have signed up for a thread on the Living Binge Free team, and am going to check in there hourly, whenever he goes away, with what I've been doing and eating. I hope that accountability in eating and making good (interesting to read) use of my time will help me stay on the straight and narrow.

ok - thanks for chatting ladies (where is everyone else?) - time for a walk and then housework. Next time I'm here I will hopefully give an idea of what exercise routine I will be doing.

Bye for now

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1/3/19 11:49 P

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it doesn't seem like youwent that far off the track. It's hard notto eat anything processed or or sweets at all...

thanks for the info about knees.

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I, too, get so frustrated with people who talk that their aches & pains are just inevitable because they're getting old, blah, blah, etc. and do not acknowledge the power of their words, for "life and death are in the power of the tongue". I know Joyce has addressed this in her teachings, maybe she'll address this later in the book.

I have to admit that I've not taken care of myself, mostly poor eating habits and too much sitting. A few years ago I made a vow to cut out processed sugar, and was totally committed to that for almost 2 years, then I gradually began allowing myself 'just a taste' and started satisfying (or was I actually reigniting?) my sweet tooth with gummy vitamins (B, C, multi- etc.). And while the "just a taste" began of taking a bite or two then throwing the rest away, over the holidays my 'tastes' consisted of limiting myself to 2 cookies.

My biggest physical problem is with my knees; I recently read an article that for every pound you lose it equates to almost 4 lbs. less pressure on your knees.

My husband is also eating lots of chips, crackers and cereal out of the box.


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well sugar free girl , I appreciate your openness in this discussion. In fact, I think this conversation is useful . I think by discussing things this way, we might figure out some things we are talking about.

It is helpful to those of us, who wish to evaluate things for the new year. I think I may have mentioned, that I like many don't stay consistent for so long.

I think we all struggle with self care for several reasons mentioned … I liked your example of the carpet. It makes me smile, because we are no in an apartment. We take our shoes off 1/2 of the time. Then we put 7 runner carpets down because the main one is a sand color. This is a light beige the spots of darker spots. We had it cleaned in the summer. Most of the medium runners are clean, but not the one lighter one. Also some of the places not covered aren't. I will see what I can do with the spot cleaner stuff.

However, I'm HA ha , thinking my non stick copper trays ( a year and one quarter are better, than the carpets, and us people. You know what I mean... LOL


I eat better than my spouse. He eats a lot of soda, chips, donuts, sweets.

I did have desserts and treats until 3 days ago. However, I don't eat these things daily or a lot.

We both were talking about he gained 15 since retiring.

We both have a roll, but I haven't put on more than 5-7 lbs. since the last 12 years.


My motivation is to have energy and be healthy, age better, and not develop the serious things.

I do have high cholesterol and osteoporosis So far I've refused to take drugs. However, I'd like to improve that. I keep trying things.

I bought some stretchy thing for strength training. I still have to figure out how to use it correctly and make myself use it.

There are some free exercise links for balance and core strength ( to keep one from falling ). Would you believe , there are actual ways to brace oneself to make it less likely to do as much damage. I ordered a book and DVD's for my Mom. She wouldn't do it.

I did it a few times. It's boring, but they claim it makes a big difference. I tried to get a buddy to do them with someone. I've loaned them out. I wanted to teach their techniques at church. However, the guy who put them together said, I had to take this 400 dollar class to do this.

I said, well what if I just play it and have people buy the books and DVD. Nada.


I have read about 6 people who are doing things like you said, like this 90 year old. There is a man that is a doctor who writes about this topic in our local senior magazine. His name is Dr. Walter M. Bolz 11 . I read about some of these remarkable people in activeOver50.com




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I don't want to get bent over or break bones. However, the research shows that decades of some of those medications give jaw problems , or certain kinds of breaks. So if I was going to take these things, it wouldn't be at my age.


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Sue - I started to learn strength training yesterday. I realise now that it is not just vanity but is essential for health - especially as you grow older. I saw someone on the news a while back who was in his 90s and leading a cycling club. I want to be like that!

"the Spirit produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, humility, & self-control. There is no law against such things as these"
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I struggle with self care. I don't know why. I guess I don't realise my own value. If it was a new carpet I'd take special care of it. I struggle to take special care of my self. I am hopefully in the process of righting that wrong.

I try to eat reasonably healthy most of the time. And am currently trying to improve my regular eating further by using the SP nutrition tracker (just started yesterday - treated myself to SP premium so I could get the ad free experience - otherwise the nutrition tracker is unusably slow).

I fall down when hubby is away (which he is for a few days every 6 weeks or so). My routine goes out the window and I often (not always) eat lots more than usual and less healthy food than usual. Consequently I'm up down up down with my weight and overall slowly going the wrong way.

Incidentally, you notice that even in this post I have shown my lack of self worth by saying I treated myself to SP premium , when maybe I should have not seen it as a treat, but an essential for self care.

"the Spirit produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, humility, & self-control. There is no law against such things as these"
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I really agree with you. Now most of my friends either don't work out at all or they are in a club or classes. That's why I don't have a partner.

Spark are some of the most active people.

I am surrounded by people who say, " at a drop of a hat", it's blah blah blah getting old. Some swear word, or negative jargon. Yes, somewhat, but much of it is from inactivity or eating anything or too much.

Even if one has health problems , is older, or a disability, they feel better , or slow down the downward spiral moving.

It's just an excuse or lack of motivation or care.

People get mad when I say their nor that old... you know....

I know I am blessed in some genetic ways but also I keep making myself get back on track. I think I told you what I wasn't doing... from laziness, boredom, or not feeling like it, but I got back on the horse.

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Finally, Reason #7:

We have forgotten our own value.

Quoting Joyce's introduction: "If you suffer from self-doubt or self-hatred, if you abuse your body with bad food or bad habits, even if you put yourself at the bottom of the list of people you do things for...[spouse, kids, parents, boss, friends]...then you do not understand your own value. If you did, you wouldn't treat yourself that way. You were put on this earth to spread God's love, and nothing could be more valuable than that."

The value system of the secular, modern world tells us money, status, and possessions, are more important than our spirit, soul & body.


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Annie, Sue - you are both absolutely right about having a 'live' partner; but right now I only have you guy. emoticon

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that is true. I used to have an exercise partner. We walked on Saturdays.

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Yes but it helps to have a "real" person for support too

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Why we don't take care of ourselves...

Reason #6
We have lost our support.

Thankfully, we can get support by spending time in fellowship with God …. and our teammates here.

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Sue, feel free to post info about that herb here.

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if you send me an e-mail in my Spark box, I can tell you about an herb, that really helps when this happens. emoticon

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I don't burn the candle at both ends, but I do have trouble sleeping - I am working on that.

"the Spirit produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, humility, & self-control. There is no law against such things as these"
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12/31/18 6:43 P

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not only that, but people doing more than one job, to make ends meet here.

Our Pastors ' kids moved in with them and grandchildren because the rent is so high.

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I see this everyday for those who work and have kids... especially full time. I also see with caregivers with the sandwich generation.


Also people who have shifts or activities, meals, bedtime, all over the place.

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Sorry I missed the last couple days. Playing catch-up here:

Reason #5

Some have become pathologically selfless, ending up ignoring their own basic needs. While it's a good thing to help others, it feels good & sometimes makes us feel important, it's possible to cross the line and begin to mistake suffering for virtue. And if they feel unacknowledged or unappreciated, sadly, martyrs usually end up bitter.

On a personal note, I saw this in my grandmother and mother. I remember a summer when Grandma didn't have enough $$ to have her cistern filled, so she drove to the service station and filled jugs with water from the hose, but felt the need to continue buying things for the grandchildren.
My mother went without a winter coat (she wore her spring coat with sweater underneath) for 2 years, while each of us children got new Easter outfits. But later, when she felt unappreciated, she would remind us of things like this and all of the work she did.


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Reason #4

We have let ourselves slip into unworkable lives.

We have so many pressures on our lives and find ourselves "burning the candle at both ends".
We're too busy or tired to work out, we'll grab fast food on the run, cheat our sleep time in order to catch-up on things. This is bad, because life is a gift from God and is meant to be joyful.

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Perhaps she is trying to find it for you

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12/29/18 12:33 P

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PS haven't haven't heard back from my sister. Hopefully she still has the book. I gave it to her after I read it.

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this is wonderful... an actual conversation. COOL.

When my Mom passed, I got some kitchen utensils. Once I brought some to my class. As I suspected, the children loved seeing a ricer, a gravy thing ( it is a coiled wire, which will stand, or get flat. There is a hand beater that is turned. A thing that makes her priced applesauce at the holidays.

Last is the " Little House". I think that is a ricer also.


I've been told that some oft those puddings and cakes, because they are deal foods.

I did make some amazing cupcakes for Christmas. They had peanut butter frosting, and banana cream in the filling. I did use a boxed cake, and dr. it up.

However, I don't feel bad, because I usually save this stuff for holidays and events like birthdays. It's not my regular diet.


However, my skin is breaking out, and I'm trying to get back to my regular food.
LOL


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Yep - that's right - when I was a little girl I remember my mum making her own cakes and puddings, and washing clothes by hand. She walked to the shops each day to get the groceries. She was in her 60s before she had a washing machine. I do think if I made all my own savoury pastries and desserts I would be a lot slimmer because of the time and energy it takes - plus when you make them yourself, you see exactly how much fat and sugar goes in them...

"the Spirit produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, humility, & self-control. There is no law against such things as these"
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From the Intro, Why we don't take care of ourselves

Reason #3. We have lost touch with exercise.

Throughout almost all of human history, exercise was an integral part of our daily existence. Now there are so many conveniences we often live completely divorced from exercise.

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Good point. Yep, we are constantly receiving mixed messages.

And to think about how the nutritionists/medical community/media convinced us that natural fats & egg yolks (BTW, created by God) were bad, and should be replaced with man-made, adulterated oils and sugar!

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Media - I always think it's funny that the front cover of magazines always seem to advertise both a new diet and a new chocolate cake recipe. It seems we are expected to be both Mrs Supermodel and Mrs Supercook. Not being either is fine.

"the Spirit produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, humility, & self-control. There is no law against such things as these"
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I know emoticon my brother has a long commute too

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I read the introduction and American's Self-Respect Crisis. Very eye opening. I start my new work schedule January 2. 6-3. I am hoping with the change in my work schedule my commute time will drop due to less traffic. My current schedule is 8-5 but due to traffic I leave my house at 7 and don't get home till almost 6 or a little after 6. So I am hoping to be able to devote my time to this study and getting back on track with my weight loss and eating healthy.

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Looking forward to getting to you too.

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I heard the average size was 12-16. If that is true... than it does show we do play around with the norm. It reminds me of grading on the curve. It makes us feel better....

I remember how our son scored 97 percent on a SAT test. I was proud of him because he was a sophomore. However, certain subjects like math and reading skills are so low.. he looked brilliant.


I haven't kept up with it, but our state had once been number 16 comparing to other states. They spent more money , so that was surprising. I am referring to public school.

I'm not saying those sizes are huge, just that the standard has changed.

I do think there are others who are too thin or slim and not healthy. There are some bigger size people who are healthier.

I thin it is a combination of eating habits and exercise. Also mind set.


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I sadly admit that I do, on occasion, while acknowledging that I am waaaaaayyyyyy overweight, emoticon I find myself looking at another woman and thinking, "At least I'm not THAT big."

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From the Intro, "Why" -- although it's in our nature to take care of ourselves -- "don't we?"

Reason #2. We have a skewed body image planted in our minds by media and advertising.


On one side we're inundated with unattainable ideals of beauty, while on the other, obesity is becoming so prevalent that it's almost considered the norm.


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Information is definitely confusing - I read somewhere that more than 1 brazil nut per day is bad for you because of something in them? I never died from it though - perhaps nature has also put the antidote in the nut! That's just an example, but it does make it hard to make decisions about what is healthy.


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Today my husband talked to a friend that was once his roommate. He had three or four things on his menu as a single guy then got married.

He is 3 years older than my husband but has a lot of health problems and takes lots of pills. My husband and I take one tablet and vitamins.

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In the Intro, Joyce listed 7 reasons for, although it's in our nature to take care of ourselves, "Why don't we?"

I'll post 1 each day, so even if you don't have the book yet, you'll have something to begin to ponder now.

1. We don't know how to take care of our physical bodies.

"Food" for thought:

There is so much diet/nutritional misinformation and conflicting information, even from experts; and, there is so much easy access to the 'wrong' foods (fast food drive-thrus; overly processed foods & snacks labeled as 'healthy', but nutritionally compromised).

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I will see if I gave the book to my sis.If so I can borrow it back. If not, I'll see if I can get it at another library or maybe used.

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Thanks CherrieT

Newlife140 - have added you as a friend - looking forward to getting to know you

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I will be ordering the book from Amazon Kindle edition. Can't wait to start it!!!

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Right now, here is the only thread on Joyce's book. My plan was that we use this month to acquire the book and discuss the intro pages -- Introduction, America’s Self-Respect Crisis and Using the 12-Key Plan for Great Health.

I think SUGARFREEFEAST (Annie) outlined a great plan when she suggested/initiated this book discussion -- we can work on one of the 12 Keys each month.

As Joyce wrote, “A new key each month isn’t necessarily too slow; that means you’re taking the next year to commit yourself to physical and spiritual health, and it gives you plenty of time to work on each key before considering the rest.”

And in January a new Topic will be opened in this Forum for us to discuss her 1st Key – Let God Do the Heavy Lifting.


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Recognised the imposter this morning at breakfast, urging me to have extra, but realising what was happening made it easy to say no and just have my usual amount.

LivelyGirl2 - I couldn't find the other thread on this subject. It's not in the book reviews forum. Post the link here if you can find it? Hope you get a hold of a copy of the book. I'm not intending to "teach" on it - just expecting people to read the book and post their comments and progress, and I will do the same.

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Hi you and Cherriet. . So I FINALLY looked for the book. I don't have it anymore. I think I gave it away. If I didn't give it to my sister... than no telling. I didn't see that one at the library either. I had read it awhile back. So if you post a bit of the point, I can still remark on it... if I don't find a used copy.

I was trying to see if you had read the book study I wrote here...and I will answer when I can.

I just finished the laundry downstairs. A lady had some clothes on her balcony. Bees were all over it. I told the office, because , the mans' visiting mom doesn't know English. She said, the lady's son has to write a work order. Then when my girlfriend met me by the pool: there was a cement stair was broke in half at the bottom. Both of us thought... if a child or older person came down from their doorstep, they could fall on their head if they aren't looking at their feet. She said, no body in that section of 8 had said anything. My friend showed her the picture, and let her write the work order. Usually hey only let the one put in the request that is next to the apartment. This sort of thing never happened years ago, when I was living at an apartment. These guys DON'T want to repair things.

As far as finding spots for stuff, I put my craft things and gift wrap under the bed.

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Apologies if I don't respond straight away to anyone on this thread as I'm in the UK, and new data laws mean I don't get email notification when someone posts, so I am just checking in from time to time.

LivelyGirl2 - no it was definitely Him who said that to me. I don't like to say it was definitely Him saying stuff when I'm discussing these things with other people unless it's in the word. Don't want to lead anyone astray if I was wrong. But am 100% sure it was Him speaking to me that time.

Anyhow - know how you feel about moving to a smaller place - we did that this year. What a shock to the system! I am still working on finding a place for everything.

Did you find the book?


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when I get off this computer, I will go look. I had to get rid of many books because we are now in a small apartment, and one bedroom ( we used to have a garage and another bedroom and yards. ) emoticon

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LOL , well maybe he said that, or we tend to rationalize these things. Okay, let me give examples of what I'm thinking..

So I used to be legalistic about it, and try and never eat any more sweets. I really didn't want them so much. Now I decided it was okay during a special occasion like anniversary or birthday. Or I could have a tiny piece or sampling...

other times I would have a bit of cream on top maple yogurt in a lovely stemmed glass , like 1/2 to 1/3 cup, or three or four piece or good quality candy. It seemed like more of a treat, because it was 60-80 percent dark chocolate. Then I didn't want a lot. One day I purchased some dark chocolate( chocolate chips / eating about 10 ).

If one is diabetic then maybe they have to abstain or very obese.

There used to be a lady on Spark that would set herself up for failure. She lost a lot, but put it back on because she had too many NO No's and it wasn't a lifestyle thing but diet. .

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I searched my bookshelf and found it. It's been on the shelf for about 10 years. I think I scanned thru the book when I first got it, but don't remember doing anything in depth.
I look forward to doing this together.

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Good insights for a great start. You wrote, " He said that the me He wants me to be, is the me *I* want to be.."

As is written in Psalm 37:4
Delight yourself in the Lord,
And He will give you the desires and petitions of your heart.

When we delight in the Lord, our HEART is in the right place with God, so then our DESIRES are also in line with His. That is why both you and He want you to be the best you that you can be.


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LivelyGirl2 - Hope you've still got the book!

ok so this is already bearing fruit for me. I read the intro bits and chapter 1, and decided that my way of taking action would be to ask God each morning when I wake up to help me be the me He wants me to be.

Of course, I forgot to do this, but while getting breakfast I asked Him, and I thought He said that the me He wants me to be, is the me *I* want to be... Well this was a bit of a disappointing reaction, I thought...

But just now, as I was writing this conversation in my journal, I realised that I really do want to be the best me I can be. So if that's the real me, who is it that wants chocolate when I'm supposed to have given it up for lent? An imposter! (Imposter - someone who is pretending to be someone else)

So I hope that knowing that I have an imposter who is trying to get me to do the wrong thing, will help me to do what the real me really wants to do.

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I have to look and see if I still have that book, or I had got it at the library. If not, maybe I could write down the 12 points and look at it.


Since I moved, I haven't been very consistent with exercise. I had two or 3 partners to work out with, and they all stopped. I mean we would take turns. Also I had the most active.

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I am blogging about my intentions for Joyce's (what I consider to be classic) book "Look Great, Feel Great" (link to and copy of blog below). It would be great to chat with you here throughout the year about our progress with the 12 key points she introduces, and how we are doing at the 5 suggestions she has for incorporating each change into our life. Look forward to chatting with you.

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As part as my 101 Things To Do In 1001 Days List, I have decided to read Joyce Meyer's book "Look Great, Feel Great". It sets out 12 areas for improvement. I figure as it's January soon, that could be one each month in 2019? So I am going to read the intro pages and chapter one during December. Each chapter has five suggestions for incorporating that change into your life. So at the end of each month I will state on my blog which of those suggestions I am going to take up for the following month, and how.
I'll also start up a thread on the Inspired and Challenged by Joyce Meyer team, so we can have some company for the journey and a more personal ongoing discussion throughout the month.

I have put the link below to the Amazon page for the book, so you can check out the contents page and part of the beginning of the book using Amazon's Look Inside feature, although of course you may prefer to go to your local book shop to actually buy the book? I know I would. I do like to support the local shops.
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