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2/4/11 11:43 A

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I am binging now I did ok for a while and I have not stopped eating for about an hour an that doesn't sound bad, but I finish lunch in 5 minutes most of the time and I have ate an entire bag of nuts, candies and several servings of chips with the soup and breakfast bar.

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1/31/11 5:20 A

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I went along for 3 wks and then it all blew up. Last Friday I bought a box of cookies and thought if I would just eat until I was feeling sick I wouldn't want them any more. No such luck I have now been on a 3 day bing, eating everything I have tried to stay away from. I feel ashamed that I can't do better than this. I am really fat and it is causing hip pain. Why can't I do this. Its harder that quieting cigarettes.

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1/23/11 12:29 A

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I am so glad this post was made....

I've finally stopped the purging, but Ic an't stop the emotional binging! Like today, I had such a frustrating afternoon, I came home, was starving, grabbed an apple, grabbed the peanut butter and started eating, then found the graham crackers and went to town.....and then felt even worse from being stressed/hungry/binging. i think what we need to do when we feeling a binge coming on is not eat...but drink instead to fill up a little, and then feed the hunger that is truely there and not the stress that is there........fortunately i stopped before i got into the chocolate. but i just want to know, will it ever go away? and i would like quick tips for staying away from even relatively "healthy" foods, because anything that allows me to binge just reinforces my behavior....

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1/18/11 2:45 A

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Gee all these posts are telling my story. My binge eating is emotional i think and maybe things i am lacking in my diet. I cant just have 1 biscuit i will eat the whole packet. Dry milo is my biggest downfall, wish i could turn the switch off in my brain

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thanks for these pages!!
The last one doesnt excist anymore...

I will definatly read all of them..

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Hi. I have really slow internet, So i was hoping if anyone has read anything particularly helpful in stopping binge eating they would tell me so that i don't have to go thru every link. I know everybody is different but i dont have a ton of time and would really appreciate the info.

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11/27/10 11:29 A

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Hello,
I hope you had a great TG. I wanted to comment about your post which your info is so correct about binging. I start of eating small amounts too and later eat bigger and large portions. The best way to treat it is to resist the temptation. Because once you start that's all it takes and before you know it you have over done it.... Thanks so much for sharing that it is vital and I've learned from it.

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Thanks so much for the posting of links they help us a lot and are great reads....
Good luck everyone!

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Most of my family are very much overweight and I never understood when my sister would constantly eat until I went through this myself just weeks ago. I think my diet triggered my binges because I don't eat sweets or much carbs while on my diet. My diet is very clean and strict but it gets the weight down. It is one of many for those who are prepping for a figure contest or bodybuilding show. But, I think I shared that my hypnosis cd helps a lot and I forgot to include that I also take Rhodiola or mood support which also helps me. I don't work for any of the companys just wanted to stop binge eating that was sabotaging my progress.

Use negetivity and name calling as your motivation.
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11/19/10 5:34 P

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for the first day in six days i did not binge. I went over on my colories, but only by 100. I planned my meals ahead of time. that seemed to help
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Great discussion ..especially since I have been on a 7 day binge. Trying hard to get back on the wagon!

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No, you're not alone on that one. You said exsactly
how it is also for me...when I exercise..I never want to eat.
Gosh I hate getting started (when I exercise)but when I'm done...I feel soooo GOOD !For such a long time afterward too.

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You know what I've found? It may just be me, but after I exercise I never want to eat. It takes, like, an hour or two before it's even possible to have another craving. So whenever I want to eat something unhealthy, I go take a quick swim or something. That way, even if I eventually binge, some of it will be worked off.

"You know, I've learned something today. Family isn't about whose blood you have, it's about who you care about. And that's why I feel like you guys are more than just friends. You're my family."


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7/24/10 4:34 P

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Such great information! I will get busy reading. It's so comforting to know you're not the only one dealing with this issue on a daily basis!

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Thanks for the info emoticon

If the first thing you do each morning is to eat a live frog, you can go through the day with the satisfaction of knowing that that is probably the worst thing that is going to happen to you all day long....Mark Twain

Your "frog" is your BIGGEST, most important task, the one you are most likely to procrastinate on if you don't do something about it.


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emoticon gr8 discussion & links :)

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LABYRINTHIA I also agree that is a great quote! I'm definitely going to keep that in mind. My binge eating trigger is fried food. I LOVE fried food, especially french fries. I'm an all or nothing kind of person. I can't usually have just one or two french fries, if I eat them I eat a lot. Sometimes when I'm not even hungry I will fry them at home just to have them.

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Whether foods have to be abstained from completely to control intake of them is actually a controversial area. Some say that deprivation of the food can set up a chemical reaction in the brain that then produces a signal, often experienced as an anxious urge, to get that food, which the eater will often OVEReat. Small amounts of the food can set off this process, BUT if the eater resists the chemical message to OVEReat the food, eventually (after many experiences) the urge to overeat will be extinguished. It is NOT easy because you have to last through some very persistant messages to eat that food! It is probably best not to eat the food at every meal, or even every day, but it has to be eaten in small quantities sometimes OR abstained from forever, which is usually unlikely. Just knowing that every time I binge, I strengthen the cylce of bingeing has helped me to stop before I start...at least for now. And, for me, not overeating at meals helps, too. Weirdly, I find if I get too full, I want to eat an hour or two later. Finally, waiting about 5-6 hours between meals (I know, I know, not the 5-6 meal advice, but I tried that for years and still binged) makes me just about the right amount of hungry to enjoy my meals without overeating. Overeating is a trigger to eat more!

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It is a recovery slogan from chemical abuse. I really am finding that, predominately, the more I deal honestly with the binge eating disorder, compulsive overeating, and food addiction, I seriously discover that which I know many other addicts have discovered, it is a transferable illness and much the same as drug and alcohol addiction or any other kind of addiction. The funny thing is that we think we can just modify our behavior or drop the weight but it has to be total surrender to the fact that this is a binge eating disorder and somehow we will never ever be normal eaters again. I know that I have to be aware. I have dealt with this all my life and been in remission several times. And when the problems come back, they come back with a vengeance but it is sneaky...coming back over time like an old friend you haven't seen for a while that makes a few appearances and suddenly there they are like they never left. Wow! Very much like addiction. I can not help but think that if I do not continue with my recovery from addiction I will probably not succeed with recovery from binge eating due to the fact that I need the knowledge that I can stay in recovery and keep recovering and succeed. However, I must also remember for myself, it is only ONE DAY AT A TIME.
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Labyrinthia, that is a great quote to describe trigger foods, "one is too many and a thousand never enough!" For me, that describes spoonfuls of peanut butter. I've decided that once I finish the PB left in the house, I'm just not going to buy it anymore - because I know exactly what will happen. Besides, even when I do eat it "sensibly" i.e., on a sandwich, I still want to use 2-3 tbsp, and I do not need to be adding 200-300 calories on top of 180 cals for bread and then jam! I just need to steer clear, haha.

I do love garbanzo beans too, and I definitely munch on a few when I'm adding them to something :P So I feel you there!

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You know it is sad when you realize that a healthy food is a binge trigger. I discovered that, as if I shouldn't have already known, garbanzo beans are a trigger food. I had always loved hummus and once upon a time I started making hummus at home. I found out I could skip the whole process and just eat the beans. Well, sooner or later I was eating the beans out of the can. Now, garbanzo beans have come up on the menu here at Spark. I thought it was something I could incorporate into my diet again. WRONG. Last night, after a long day out of town, and just having got back on the right track again, I ate a whole can of them. First I took a little knowing I would never be satisfied and then I went back and poured the rest into a big bowl and sat their like the cat with the canary in her mouth. It sounds like ,"Oh, just garbanzo beans...what harm can they do?" but then I ate cheddar cheese, both of which I could had half as much easily. Really, I was a little hungry and a lot tired and I needed a small snack and a good night's sleep. But, I messed up my body again because in the morning just after three am I woke up with heartburn. Ouch!!! And that is my story of how I have decided that garbanzo beans are added to my list of trigger foods. One is too many and a thousand never enough!

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So glad I have found this board!I keep saying to myself only once a week I will let myself have some pb,but its been all weekend long lol.I just dont know what to do...I am almost at my goal weight..I just dont want to undue all my hard work.I work out 3-5 times a week(running)so its like I am working out to work off the peanut butter lol.



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Oh my goodness - FITMOM9603, that is EXACTLY my problem!! I came on this board because I have been having trouble with nighttime binges on - you guessed it- Peanut butter.

I work day and night shifts at a restaurant, and when I get home, I am exhausted, and it's like I shut off my brain and sit down with a jar of peanut butter and eat it by the spoonfulls! I run for 45 minutes about 4x/week and always do SO well eating during the days (for the most part). It's frustrating because I feel like I have no control once nighttime comes! I am in maintenance now, too, so it's hard someitmes to move from the low-cal mindset to getting used to a higher-calorie intake. I end up going overboard and I'm scared that I am going to start to undo my hard, hard work :-/

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Lately for me I have been binging on peanut butter..cant explain why...I do so well during the day with my workouts and eating healthy etc,then my daughter wants a peanut butter sandwhich and I eat that stuff by the spoonfuls...I just dont know why at times.I have never really had a problem with binging until I have upped my workouts.



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Starting Day 1 of BF Eating. I have been...well, you know! Eating when I'm not hungry. Eating foods I don't even really like. Eating so amazingly unconsciously that I don't even know I've eaten. I am amazed at the speed in which I could eat. I had a guy at work explaining a situation to me while I was standing at his desk. I heard NOTHING as all I could think was...is he gonna turn around so I can steal some of the candy form the desk next to him? It was 9:00 in the morning and I had no need for a candy bar!!!!! Day 1 of BF Eating....I am here....

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We've all done these kinds of things, Nolafemme. There could be a lot of reasons you binged: you missed your husband and didn't like looking forward to his being gone for 2 weeks, you didn't plan for dinner, you ate some binge food, and many more if you delve down. Each of us must find the reason that seems unacceptable to give in to. For my own part, believing that these conditions may make it harder to say no helps me to be forgiving, if I mess up, but what has helped my the most in not giving in is learning that not giving in is possible no matter what the circumstances. The only real plan I have is to have a plate of food for dinner and then stop, no matter what I've eaten. I may choose to avoid certain foods, but I've dound it doesn't mean I won't be tempted to binge. Every time I don't just stick to eating a reasonable amount of food that doesn't leave me stuffed, I make it easier NOT to do it in the future, and that is just too painful to face most of the time, now. I do think it's good you got it off your chest, as long as "confessing" is a way for you to face yourself and accept and love yourself, AND draw the strength to hold firm next time. Make sure your meals don't make you feel you are a criminal who needs to be jailed, but do accept that it takes only a certain amount of food to be full and nourished, AND that this is just one meal. You don't have to have it all figured out right now!

I started a thread on having people try to examine the thoughts that led them to think it was okay to overeat, the thoughts they used (actually used, ot what they were supposed to use) to counteract the urging thoughts, and the activity they did rather than overeat. Not all the participants are actually posting exactly about this, but it has been very helpful to me to examine things this way. It may help if you take a look at it, or just to read the posts on the 21-day streak on this team. Just keep going! emoticon

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I joined SP on Sunday and started tracking everything I ate.My husband went out of town on Monday for the next 2 weeks. On Monday night I binged on dinner! I know because I was hungry at the time and because I didn't have a plan for dinner and had to feed the kids is why I binged. Peanut butter is my ultimate binge food, I think I had 3-4 TBSP,then cornbread,cheesecake,ice cream...If I could just not start with the PB then I think I would have been ok. I just thought by joining this group and confessing might help me!
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I tried the technique of not restricting any foods except to not overeat them and trying to learn to be intuitive for years. I could not consistently resist bingeing on sweets and on many processed foods/restaurant foods. I guess I thought it would be easier, especially when the proponents kept saying that when you took the forbiddenness out of the equation, the urge to binge would go away. Now I think I understand why it was so hard. Many processed foods are designed to surpass the body's natural mechanisms to stop eating (see the book The End of Overeating.) I still am grateful that I went through a period of time of eating all kinds of foods. Even now I don't think of rich or sweet foods as evil, but I am aware of the draw that they may have and I know why. I believe we must periodically eat them in moderation, or our bodies will react to them like an addictive drug. I may more often choose not to eat them, but I usually don't feel that deprived. I've had them many times and the truth is I rarely crave "junk" when I'm actually hungry. emoticon

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thank you . information is good to know . leads to learning and i sure need to do that .

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I've been using the book 'Getting better bit(e) by bit(e)'

It's really good and helping a lot. I'm also doing the Paul MacKenner thing - 'I can make you thin'. This book is really helpful, as it's making me understand when I'm hungry. Not sure it will make me thin all on it's own, but I'm finding it a good tool :0)

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http://www.mkprojects.com/fa_emotions.html

This is a link to a great article on how bingeing (and other compulsive behaviors) are caused by repressing our emotions.

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I just started a 16 week binge eating program and they also do a no restricted food approach, just eat a variety of foods. It's 3 meals per day with 2-3 snacks. It seems to be based on the book Binge Eating Disorder: Clinical Foundations and Treatment by Mitchell, Devlin, deZwaan, Crow, and Peterson, 2008. I don't have the whole book, I think it's directed towards clinicians, but we have the handouts and worksheets from the book. It's a group that meets for 3 hours once a week with a meal included sometime during the three hours. It's also supplemented with private meetings with dietician, counselor, and psych. It's seems like it's going to be an amazing program. They say that any kind of diet/restrictive eating plan will cause binges, etc with people who have a binge eating disorder. It's starting to make sense but it's still so foreign. I would just love to have a healthy, normal attitude towards food.

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I think the way to stop bingeing is to learn to stop restricting. It's a hard sell, I know, but the more I read (Intuitive Eating and Ellyn Satter's book, Secrets of Feeding a Healthy Family), the more I'm beginning to see that the key is to be allowed to eat what your body needs, to slowly learn eating competance and slowly regain internal regulation. Again, believe me, I was sooooo skeptical even a year ago when a colleague got me going on all this reading (we're both dietitians, I with a history of food issues and she without one). I'm now a believer.

But that is not to say to just numb out with food and eat all you want. Ellyn Satter outlines really helpful steps to eating competence, starting with getting rid of food rules and learning to be absolutely present for ONE MINUTE when you sit down to eat. Then it progresses to two minutes, other strategies are added in, etc.

Reading these things and discussing them with colleagues and graduate students in our department, it felt like they were telling me the world was flat. That everything I'd learned and taught all these years was wrong. I think that's why I resisted.

So if anyone is interested, I'd definitely read these two books. By the way, I was really turned OFF by parts of both of them, but it's important not to thorw the baby out with the bathwater.

For example, Ellyn Satter criticizes the Food Pyramid by saying the USDA has suggested we eat up to 9 fruits and vegetables a day in order to fill up on water and fiber and eat less... because we can't trust ourselves to eat the right stuff. Well come on, the fruit and vegetable recommendation is really about decreasing risk for heart disease and several cancers!! The fiber and phytochemicals are the point here, but again, that's just some of the stuff I didn't like.

Hope this helps someone out there, because it has helped me. By the way, Intuitive Eating didn't help me all that much until I read Chapter 4 of Ellen Satter's book. Can't really explain why.

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Thanks again for posting these links. I just read the Ehow article and am feeling better about what I've achieved so far. Hope is a wonderful thing to share.

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Thanks from me for the sites, I now have them bookmarked and will read them later. Today (6/29), there is an article over on The Daily Beast about "disinhibited eating disorders" that's very interesting. I don't know how to post the link so if someone knows how, please post it. Otherwise go there and read it, I found it interesting.

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Thanks for all the sites,it will take a while to go throught them all .Lots of information is helpful.

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Sheri,
Thank for the tips. Really good stuff there It's a sensitive subject difficult to discuss with people who haven't experienced It am seeing a common pattern discussed in the articles bringing it right back to me. Helpful hints to use and encouragement when we fall short.

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Thanks for the links

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SHERI, thanks for the info. I am definitely going to do some reading this weekend.

Nancy :)

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What a great resource! Thanks you so very much!

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These links are very helpful!

I didn't read all of them, but after reading the one in particular about Bingeing on Words, not food, I immediately felt I had to speak to someone or various people.
In addition to recognizing the emotional reasons behind why we binge, it's also important to give it a voice. It is hard to reach out to others about such a private issue, but it is important that with the advice from these articles, we continue to support each other, give ourselves that voice and the strength to stop hiding.

Thanks Sheri!



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Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

Wish I'd seen some of these years ago ~ some new to me and a lot of it good reminders to help us with this problem.

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dear Sheri,

Thank you for posting those sites. I really do appreciate it. The information is very helpful to me.I'm trying hardier to drink more water to flush out my kidneys and it seems the fluid problem is getting better. You are a sweetheart to help me out.

May you have a wonderful day!

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DORATHYINMN, ANY of those links will help you. That's why I posted all of them. Go to any one for information, ideas and tips.

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Sheri,

Thanks for the research. A lot of good information. emoticon

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Sheri,

Could you please let me know the site I can get to about how to stop binge eating? Hope your day is going well. Thank you.I'm sorry I found your site thanks anyway.

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Thanks for the links. I printed off some and saved some others.
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Yes ma'am. I'm in a research mode today lol.

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you have been busy with the research!

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