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What ever works is what you should do. Before Cymbalta I didn't care about my self. I am the person I used to be years ago. I love to read, cook, shop, Knit, crochet and many more things.

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Oh, great, Dustyrose! It really helps to find something that works. I never used meds but therapy, exercise and many changes to my diet have helped me greatly! Now, eating less and only when hungry is helping w/the anxiety. Weird!

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I go out all the time and I take trips to my girl friends which is 25 miles away I just go and don't think about it. I feel great and I owe it all to Cymbalta. I don't like being by my self but I do it. My life is 100% different now that I am on Cymbalta.

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Dustyrose, if this behavior of yours interferes w/your life, keeps you from doing things, a good therapist can help you overcome this behavior. Or you can slowly start to desensitize yourself by gradual exposure to the fear. You may be doing that already.
I know that on a scale of 1 to 10, my depression is @ a 2 now, present but kept in check and my anxiety is probably @ a 4 or 5, it doesn't keep me from doing things I need to do but it is still something I need to overcome in order to feel my life is full. There have been times when I felt they both were off the charts in a very negative way! Don't ever want to go there again!

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Sharone104 No I never heard of it. I don't like going any place alone because of an accident I had in 1977. I was innocent and didn't have a passenger for a whiteness with me. The woman that hit me was drunk and got a ticket for being inebriated. I got a ticket for failure to yield. I was through the yield and completely on my side of the road she went over the middle line and side swiped me. Ever since that I don't like driving alone. I went to work every day for 23 years after that. I just don't like driveling farther the an hour away from home. I am afraid of getting lost also. I will be buying a GPS unit to plug into my cigarette lighter that guides you so you don't get lost and that may solve that problem.



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I agree, PRINCESS, now that I know that I have panic and anxiety (and OCD) I have a lot of aha! moments about events from my childhood.
I had what I considered to be agoraphobia many years ago as a young mom when I didn't want to leave the house alone, and trembled standing in the cereal aisle because there were too many choices and I didn't think that I could do it.
One day I asked my ex in the other room what the date was, and he said, "You are checking the expiry date on the sour cream, aren't you?" Of course, he was right, and I realized how sad it was that that was the only reason that I would need to know the date. I forced myself to go out and get a small part-time job so that I would have to leave the house, and worked my way through it eventually.
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Looking back in my childhood, I see episodes of anxiety now... but at the time I thought it was just normal... and these episodes ddidn't seem so frightening....

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well, princess, nice to have you in this camp, anyway! my anxiety/phobia has been around all my adult life w/signs of it throughout my childhood. anyone else have any idea when yours began?

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greetings, agorophobia was/is one of my diagnoses.. but I think I have a very narrow definition...because I am not afraid of going out and about---I am an extroverted clinically depressed person... go figure... so from what I gather is that ONCE I am in a social/work/life relationship with others then my panic attack starts so my p-doc defined it as agorophobia which makes sense to me now... emoticon

AND another way of explaining it is ... I am just to flakey (coconut flakes) to NOT know that I should stay out of everyone's way... I am so like the Coyote who chases the roadrunner--and keeps getting bonked.... and see how my ADD has totally developed my message and the topic.... and so now I am thinking about what I should have, could have said... hence the panic/anxiety attack.... it would seem to be a 'custom' form of clinical depression..... Royal Pain...

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Have either of you ever heard of agorophobia? It's the fear of spaces/places, that sort of thing. Different than social anxiety altho really fear is fear it just depends on what you associate it with.

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PRYZYM Have you felt this way very long about going places by your self. I have felt like that for 15 years at least.

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Oh Gosh, going places! Terrible, awful time with that. I did venture out yesterday with my daughter, seldom can I go out alone. I locked my keys in the car...I never lock my car but had my laptop in it so I did and, oh boy I thought I was going to lose it. But I didn't I went inside a store and called triple A. I don't have a cell phone. It was nice out, I enjoyed the sun and reminisced on the time my daughter locked me out of the car at a shopping center and thought it was oh so funny. My near panic turned into fun. Also showed me I can handle more then I thought.

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Yes COWGIRLSPURR I sometimes feel that I just can't seem to get going no energy but I don't fell sick. I sleep a lot. If I force myself to get started I am fine. I also don't like to go any ware by myself. Once I get in the car and get going I am fine.

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? .•*´¨ )?? **Diane's* ??*¨)
Retired and Loving It .•*´¨?-:¦:-
?-:¦:- )? ¸.•*¨) ?¸.•*¨)? -:¦:- Love is not finding someone to live with; it's finding someone you can't live without
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This is a dream come true...finding you people! I can SO totally relate to the anxiety in all of you. Mine is mainly social anxiety but I frequently had bouts of sick form anxiety! All of the advice below so totally applies...breathing, taking it all one day at a time, taking off the pressure when things don't pan out. I also gained peace of mind through exercise...building up the body's core muscles seemed to make me relax more, too.
Goodness, people, w/o meds it has taken me all my adult life to come this far w/this diagnosis! First I didn't even know how to IDENTIFY my problem! Then, in my 20s a coworker told me what it was. WOW. I thought I was just a freak. What a mindblowing thing to find that it was an illness and maybe others went through the same thing. That was @20 years ago. I have had to peel back layer after layer to get to where I am now. And it has been so totally unnerving because my family was an abusive, neglectful nightmare. It was a very frightening thing to break away from ones own family in order to find confidence/peace of mind/accept support from strangers. I started my own business and began to interact regularly w/people who appreciated what I had to offer. Now that I've had a taste of a social life, I want MORE. I suddenly want a full, happy life. I socialize timidly, altho NO one thinks of me as timid or shy. I am articulate and friendly, even outgoing on meeting. But then I become fearful? That's the social anxiety.
Anyway, that's where I am at...trying to allow myself to just enjoy what feels good. THIS IS AGONIZINGLY painful sometimes. SOmetimes I just pick myself apart after a social encounter. But then I stop myself and say I am okay and I don't have to compare myself to anyone.
To the dear one who started this chat...I am glad your next day was better. As BLACKCOSMOCAT suggested, don't think so far in advance that you fear things that aren't yet real. Take one day at a time and let yourself always look back and realize how far you have come! I have one wonderful friend who reminds me of that all the time and it's quite helpful. Take care all! I am just one more like you! What a relief! emoticon emoticon

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re: DBT Try this site. I just found it so I haven't had time to check it out fully yet, but it might be helpful.
www.goodtherapy.org/Dialectical-Beha
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By googling Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, you can find lots of information about DBT.
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Sparking from Chicago (brothers computer) I am so happy to hear the good news and thank you for the update! Now we can breathe a little easier. I was really worried about you!!! emoticon

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Good day to you all.
I am having a much better day than yesterday.

(before 8 am)
I have already been to the welfare office to turn in some paper work to apply for the medical stuff. We do not qualify... which we knew already. But I have to have the denial letter for one of the manufature companies of one of my meds. They give me my med for free through the mental health office. I had been sick and forgot to get the papers into them by their due date... and they did NOT close the case so I did NOT have to start all over... THANK YOU GOD!!!!

I feel like a huge weight has been lifted off me!!

Specially with all of your kind words. I dont know how I would have made it through yesterday without you all... the posse is awesome!!!!!!

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Cowgirlsspur, Yes I have many days like that too. Lots of wonderful advice, the only thing I didn't notice mentioned was breathing. Taking slow deep focused breaths for a minute or two. It doesn't make it go away, but does stop racing thoughts long enough to grab hold again. I really like the idea of having someone to keep you focused, like a personal assistant, that would be so cool. Hope your having a better day today.

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greetings... anxiety/panic attacks are highly common in the Royal matters of castle-keeping... and taking care of the RoyalConsort AND the RoyalRugrats... and it seems that the Royal Consort just isn't able to keep the royal treasury full.. so I am forced to solict funds from various facilities... which is to staythat Panic/Anxiety is something that I really internalize.. I feel that I must accomplish all things in like the next 10 minutes... WHILE I will tell others to 'chill'... funny isn't it... so happy that you are here... and there is always the DwD Posse to call upon... we offer tremencous support... blessings....

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Hi COWGIRLSPURR I was over whelmed yesterday and I am sure I will be tomorrow.... I am beginning to pack up my house of 35 years of collecting stuff.... I have someone helping me focus and not get too blown away... It is hard to look at a huge job...

You did great by doing something... Wash is very productive... Folding again Productive... And I think having clean jewelry is of huge importants.... (I love jewelry) Take care and try not to put too much pressure on yourself. emoticon

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cowgirlspur

I have days like what you are/were experiencing. I have at times been so sick that I actually vomitted, most of the time from guilt of over eating. Not a fun thing. It can actually lead to eating disorders.

To help me get through such days, I set a goal of just doing one of the things on my list. Sometimes I get it accomplished; sometimes I get it started; sometimes neither happens. Then I try not to blame myself for not doing more. I find this the hardest part of all.

Keep on trying to challenge yourself and your faulty thinking. You are doing all you can for where you are at with your depression and anxiety.

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COWGIRL I know that this is difficult, but try to stay focused on right now, rather than get concerned about how you are going to cope in the future. If you develop better coping skills now, then you won't have as much trouble later, so keep taking things in baby steps and you will get there.
Are you able to get therapy? Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) and Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT) are the most recommended types of therapy for panic and anxiety. Here is a website for locating CBT professionals.
www.nacbt.org/searchfortherapists.as
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If we all stick together, we'll find a way to get through!
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Sparklinghope....
thank you for replying... I am so glad to hear from others like me. I am having such a hard time lately.

My daughter (17yrs) helped me sooo much during the summer. Helping me keep focused and helping me soooo much with the house. I feel soooo lost now that she went to back to school.
What am I going to do when decides to move out?

Lets Just hope tomorrow is a better day. I have a few things to do, that HAVE to get done. I will keep you posted.

Thanks again to you all!!!!

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Yes, you verbalized some of my bad days to a T! I actually went out to Big Lots one day and just driving to a destination and back home that day was a great accomplishment. I have social anxiety and feel safer at the keyboard where I can edit myself if needed. emoticon

I have improved so much just having the Posse and DwD...everyone including my counselor notices the diff. So use us to the full extent for a safety net or bouncing off board.

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GOOD for YOU! So you did get up and get moving...that is very, very good. One thing that I've learned is...we have "down" days. Accept them for what they are...a "down" day. Do not be too hard on yourself. We have "up" days too, so in the end, perhaps it all balances out. On a "down" day, focus on doing the basics...the things that HAVE to be done, and if it doesn't have to be done, save it for later or for an "up" day. Also, if doing something "silly" helps to lift your spirits, then DO IT!...and give yourself a pat on the back for doing it. We are here to help with support and motivation, so let us know how you are doing. Take care and keep in touch with the team.

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Thank you all for posting. I really needed to hear your thoughts.

Update:
I threw one load of laundry in the washer,
Folded another load from the couch
silly.. cleaned my jewlery...lol
(keeps mind busy for a few minutes)
Decided I better try to eat something
(2 peices of toast)

Thank you for your thoughts and advice and Just a plain thank you for replying.

HUGS..Denice emoticon

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Yes, I have many such days. Many days even simple tasks can seem impossible. I have been exercising at least 15 min per day, I see my counselor regularly, and I am starting to take some steps to find work. It amazes me how many people are there to provide support and help.

Welcome to the group. You will find many kind and supportive friends here.
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Hi Cowgirl,

Yes, I have those days too. I work two jobs,take college classes, take care of my dad and a new puppy (and I'm not a "spring-chicken"). Some days are absolutely overwhelming. I have learned, after many years, to take one day at a time and one task at a time. Write one task on your to-do list instead of 20 tasks, and concentrate on finishing that one task. This strategy works really well for me. Good luck to you and stay in touch with the group.

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OMG, I know what ya mean. I have had several days like that. I started taking meds a few months ago and it helps and I have few days like that anymore. I hate it when I want to get motivated to do things but I am so overwhelmed with anxiety that I cannot!!! emoticon

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I am so anxious today I am literally sick.

I can't seem to get my butt moving, no motivation and no energy. My anxiety,stress, and deppresssion has has me immoblized. GRrrrrrrr

I have a short list of things to do today and I just can't seem to get going. Its like I am paralized.

I don't know to either be sick or cry.

Grrrrrrrrrrrr....

Anybody else have these kinds of days?
I need to talk or something.
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