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Val - cold does that to me. I don't often get up until not long before lunch in the winter ... Mind you, I usually turn my light off about 2a.m.

Today was the first day this summer I have sweated. I don't normally sweat AT ALL. Still, glad I don't live in Australia in their heat. I wouldn't survive.

One thought, how has your nutrition been? If it is 'wanting' a little, you might find you are less tired by tweaking. Also, have you had your Thyroid function done?

I used to love it when my little Scruffy (cross between border collie and the vet though a fox terrier) was alive, and on the bed. In the winter she would snuggle between hubby and I. In the summer she either slept at the bottom of the bed or on the floor.

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I am struggling through these final weeks of our relatively mild Texas winter - while I probably suffer from Seasonal Affective Disorder (“SAD” is so appropriate isn’t it??), my cold intolerance remains sheer misery...
In our latest minor cold snap, I don’t want to come out of our bathroom & my nice toasty space heater!
But another refuge is bed, tucked in with my 2 warm lil’ doggies. Last night I slept HARD which I suppose I needed - pretty logey this AM but we’ll see how my alertness level picks up as I slug down my coffee.
I really don’t like the idea of “sleeping my life away”.

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Last night’s dream features Hubby & I visiting Phoenix with 2 young boys who seemed to be unidentified relatives of his - nephews??
(IRL Hub’s youngest brother lives in PHX, but he has 2 daughters)
Typical scenarios were trying to corral these kids, get ‘em bathed & fed, and trying to coordinate our sightseeing expedition/meeting up with P’s brother?
My subconscious is weird sometimes; why does my interior landscape need to be so... mundane??


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Val - I often have the types of dreams that you described, but it certainly isn't a result of anxiety. Sometimes it is just your brain telling you that you need a break, and given what you have been doing late, I guess that is what you need.

Maybe you sleeping in 'once again' is that your body needed that sleep. You usually have a full-on day, and I guess that over the Xmas period you may have had time to actually relax and not rush off to work???

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Revisiting this topic as I once again slept past 8 AM for the 3rd day in a row - is it “luxury” or “laziness”??
I had a vivid dream featuring a Hawaiian-type tropical island - soaring forested peaks, crashing surf. Once again one of Val’s patented “chase/pursuit” type dreams - we rigged a catapult-type device to get up off the beach, flying up onto the summit. I read somewhere that these type of dreams signal “Anxiety”. So there’s that!
Z took his stepbrother to meet their father last night to gather up the rest of A’s belongings (clothes). I’m going to lend A my car for the next week (?) as his co-worker is changing apartments. Hubby is disgruntled but not speaking up, so I’m ignoring this aspect of my problems. I’ve got enough on my plate.
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I would suggest that you ask for a referral to a Therapist. Often they can help a person who has these sorts of difficulties. I guess in part it is to find out the reason why you are hanging on to them. My house has loads of stuff that really isn't needed or useful and it annoys the cr@p out of my daughter, however the main reasons I have kept them are memories and with the paperwork I look looking back at comparing then with now (prices etc.) I don't keep EVERYthing, tho'. I even have a top my sister made me when I was about 14-15yrs old. I am now 65. When she found out (when I showed her) a couple years ago, she thought I was M-A-D until she realized why I kept it, and then she was emotionally very happy that what she had done for me meant so much to me.

If you WANT to get rid of stuff but can't find the energy, then just getting a little bag and filling one each day will be a big help and may give you the momentum to do more.

Without being judgemental about your family, it sounds like it was a form of subtle elder abuse! Often family members don't even know that they are doing it. They confuse it with other things, such as 'out of concern'

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WOW!!! I have been thinking that there has/is something wrong with me!

Hi Everyone!

I am back again to Sparkpeople. I seem to "run" into this sight whenever I have a problem that I can't solve. Guess someone is trying to tell me something!

ok i am about 65 pounds to my weight goal. Last December I had lost about 30 pounds while living with my daughter, her 2 daughters and my son. The stress from living with them really got to me. I couldn't do anything right according to them. If I came out of my room, I would get looks that would kill Satan. Wasn't able to watch much tv so I played on my computer all day and most of the night. The reason I was living with them was in 2015 before that I lost my husband of 13+ years. I tried to go back to work but failed that when my brother died almost a year later. Couldn't function much after that. All I wanted to do is sleep. I could sleep almost 24 hours a day. I was already on depression/anxiety meds because of my husband and his medical problems. Was put back on them right shortly after I met him and he moved in with me. He literally drove me crazy with his problems. Adjusted the meds a little after his suicide (another story for another time) in 2015. Ended up on retirement and medicare.
Anyway, thought I was over all that part of my life when I was hit again by losing the place we were renting. In came my kids and moved me back "home". Everything that I had went into storage. Last December (2018) I was able to get into my own apartment once more. Can't have all my furniture, washer/dryer .. all that kind of stuff cause of the apartment complex and to small of an apartment. I have been working on getting rid of papers that has accumulated over the 15 years. Most are just junk papers, old bills/envelops .. garbage crap. Landlady has been on my case about getting it all cleaned up. How do you tell someone that the depression crap won't let you do it? No one seems to understand what I am going through. I look at a box, get depressed and go to sleep. Same thing day in and day out. Have until Aug 1st to get it all done or will be kicked out of this place. Then I truly will be homeless because I won't go back and live with my kids again. (I would choose suicide over doing that again)
So I guess what I am hinting at and trying to find out is how/when does this sleep thing ever go away?? I need to get my house cleaned this week!! Anyone with any suggestions???? Doc won't change meds around cause she says I don't need to do that. Thanks for listening to my rant

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My own sleep hygiene is poor (although better than it has been in years past).
What aggravates me are the episodes of insomnia/light & fitful sleep which arise from seemingly out of “nowhere” - especially when I am doing everything RIGHT (i.e. decent nutrition, a little exercise, drinking my cup of herbal tea before bedtime), yet I have a TERRIBLE night w/sweats & chills & nightmares?!?
I am concerned when the highlight of my day is the opportunity to spend 9 hrs or more in bed: when I can go to bed early (by 9 PM or so) & “sleep in” until 7 - 7:30 (I don’t let myself lie around later than that, or I really will feel awful).
I feel like in many ways I am sleeping or napping** my life away, which is sad.
** I don’t take as many naps as I used to, but sometimes I am still hit by an overwhelming wave of fatigue in the late afternoon & HAVE to lie down
(Yes, I’ve had all my routine bloodwork done & everything is normal)

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Wow...These describe my situation so well but I didn’t know this was something anyone else dealt with. I just sleep and sleep and sleep. Nothing excites me or motivates me. I try to do things to get myself up and just end up right back in bed sleeping my life away. I had a prescription for Prozac but it gave me heartburn so bad I couldn’t stand it and apparently that’s a side effect of most antidepressants so switching it wouldn’t help the heartburn, which is sad because the Prozac really did wonders for me before the heartburn started. (I guess that particular side effect is amplified by my hypothyroidism.) I wish I could give you answers that would help you but unfortunately I’m in the same boat. I’m rooting for your health and happiness. If you do find something that works for you, please do share.

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I have Obstructive Sleep Apnea.

Why did you stop using your machine? Were you instructed to? If not and left untreated, Sleep Apnea can cause/aggravate depression and cause the wanting to sleep all the time, too. It can also significantly impact on a person's weight!!!

I would be inclined to ask the Dr for another Sleep Study, OR if you have your machine still, start using it and see if your sleepiness, depression etc. improves. It might be that your meds don't need to be altered.

The other thing that you can do for yourself is to ensure that your food choices are healthy, and that you are getting plenty of lean protein, healthy fats, AND quality carbs (Think wholegrains as well as fruit/veges.)

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Hi everyone! I am rejoining SparkPeople after being away for a long time. Part of the reason I'm rejoining is because I not only need to lose weight - but I realize that I'm spiraling downward towards non-functioning depression if I'm not careful. Been there a few times.

A bit of background about me. I've struggled with depression since I was 10 (undiagnosed till my 40's). I'm now 58. I've had four times in my life when I went into a "non-functioning" state where I'd sleep all day - eat/drink - maybe do a load of laundry and then go back to sleeping. At one point during the first episode like that my meds (taking for the first time) kicked in after a few weeks and I was like "WOW ... I'm awake!" After that I learned a bit of what "normal" could be like if you weren't depressed. Talk about a shock.

Anyway - I'm still on Paxil and have been on the same dose for almost 2 years now. In April I switched from working outside the home with a somewhat physical job (that hurt my back) to working from home sitting at my computer and answering the phones for UHaul as a customer service rep. My back is doing much better - but lately I've started laying down as soon as I get off work at 2 pm...napping til 5....being up till 8 and then going back to sleep until 7 am.

Its like I have nothing I want to stay up for.

I also need to lose weight.

I'm planning to try to see my doctor (military retirees who get care on the Air Force base) later in December to see if my meds need to be updated. I'm wondering if this is depression going on or if there is a physical reason why I'm wanting to sleep so much.

I have had sleep apnea in the past and probably could use going on the machine again (it's been at least 5 years - closer to 8 or 10).

I think one of the hardest parts is finding something that I enjoy doing when I am awake. It's like....I'm bored..unhappy...why not just go to sleep.

I'd love to hear how others deal with this.

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I hear you, Sarah - I have Obstructive Sleep Apnea for which I have to use a CPAP machine, and I also suffer from insomnia, which means I often don't get to sleep until around 3a.m. and then it is often patchy or poor quality. Because I don't work and I live on my own, it doesn't really interfere with my day, however. I can get up late a.m. if I need that extra time, but I don't sleep during the day.

Good luck with your journey!
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Hi I am dealing with the sleep issue bigtime right now, setting up a new diet/fitness program with a 100 lb weight loss goal. I had let everything go and my sleep tends to turn around to sleeping during the day and up all night if left on its own. I love the mornings but I have to work to keep them,and now I am working for it. Today I hope to stay up all day without a nap in the afternoon so I can fall asleep early tonite. Really working for that right now. Will let you know how it goes. So glad to be here with others to share these issues. Sarah

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You are like me, I work nights for that reason. I am much more productive in the wee hours of the morning. My problem is that on my days off, I try to live as normal people because my husband is a morning person. I am ALWAYS tired. I believe that my depression causes me to sleep a lot more at times, there are days that I can sleep for 24 hours. Lately I have been having to force myself to get up to let the dogs out in the morning on my days off. I used to get up between 7:30 and 8, but now I struggle getting up at 10:30. I have no answers but I would like some.

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I've used oversleeping as an avoidance technique in the past. For me, regular exercise seems to help.



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Absolutely yes. It is always worse if I am down or stressed.

I will not be able to sleep at night, until the wee hours of the morning. Then I need to be up and at work by 8, but usually manage to crawl out of bed about 7:35, throw something on, messy ponytail, no make up and go. (maybe)

Days that I don't work can be worse. I seem to sleep better when the sun is out, so I won't wake up until 10 or 11, then I can go back to sleep an hour or two later for another few hours.

So far, the only thing that helps me regulate this is valerian or melatonin. But I can't take either one for very long or it stops working. So a few days with one, a few days with the other.

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I have sleep apnea and getting on BiPap really helped to deal with this issue. I had no idea before BiPap how poorly I was sleeping!

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Thank you SLIMMERKIWI, I never even thought of that but it's possible. Sleep apnea is fairly present in my family, I snore pretty bad and of course, my weight doesn't help.
I will definitely talk to my doctor about this. Thanks again!

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FREEANGEL3 - It could also be sleep apnoea. I have been referred to a sleep clinic and the main reason for me, after seeing a Respiratory Specialist re my snoring, is because of my tiredness. I suggest that you talk with your Dr.

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Wow, after reading some of the posts here, I do not feel so alone as far as the sleep goes. Thinking about the amount of sleep I seem to require these days is depressing in and of itself. I can easily sleep 12-14 hours and always require a 1 to 2 hour nap during the day. I cannot function if I don't nap. At this time last year, I would have said that my sleep was an avoidance technique as I didn't really even want to live. That is not however, the case now. I am busier and enjoying life...it bothers me that I *have* to nap in addition to all of the sleep I get. Makes me wonder how I will ever be able to get into the work force full time again.
Happy to know that I am not alone. What I wonder is, is it the depression itself or the medications? I think possibly the medications as my anti-depressants as well as anti-convulsants both cause drowsiness. Frustrating though...
Thanks everyone for being here :)

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I sleep 12 to 14 hours a night and sometimes nap, too, and I still have no energy. I'm going to have a sleep test in December in case I have Sleep Apnea. I have lifelong depression and am on meds, so I'm pretty stable except for the oversleeping. My bed is my favorite place. I'm disabled and don't work, so the sleeping only really bothers me. I tried Melatonin, but read it's not so good for you. Because of my disability and being overweight, I am not active at all. Recently joined a weight management program and am trying chair dancing. I'd like to sleep less and do more. I'm working at it. I wish everyone recovery from whatever bothers them.

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I stay up late & get up late. Do not sleep all day though! One day after the next!

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I am in the same boat you are about being a night owl but I will sleep thru the day. So I will get up at 5 pm then stay up and run my night as if it is my day. I have so many people telling me that is crazy because I am disable and don't work so there is no good reason for me to be like this. The problem is it feels normal to me.

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I've always been a night owl, & when Im depressed I have very little energy & tend to sleep more than normal. I find that if I get out in the sunshine as much as possible & exercise energetically (water aerobics in an outdoor pool is the perfect remedy!) I don't want to sleep so much. Doing not much of anything makes me tireder emoticon

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Responding to Lin,

Lin I have weird sleep patterns also, I work all 3 shifts some weeks and it can be very draining and I am sure not good for my body or weight loss. When I can sleep normal hours it is hard, so I have tried Melatonin, it is over-the-counter supplement and naturally produced by your body. You can take a maximum of 9 mg per day, I started out with 1mg and now take 3mg. But it works best when getting at least 15-30 minutes of sunshine everyday. Only use it when you can get a full eight hours of sleep. Some people find it helpful others not so much. It all depends on the individual, but it beats taking other medications that have bad side effects. Something to study up on to see if it is right for you....Have a great day!

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i was really severely depressed for the past 2 weeks. i constantly feel sleepy and i have no motivation at all. I just wanted to disappear. i think for the most part, i dont have the energy to carry out tasks. maybe thats why i sleep for energy. Its like my brain's stopped functioning.
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I suspect that I also am having caffeine withdrawal. I stopped drinking coffee maybe thats why im so sleepy. Coffee is my addiction before, now i stopped drinking.

Yesterday and today was better. I just went out to the dentist.

Yes sleeping can be a form of an escape. When you dont want to face something or you wanted to avoid a thing, a person or a situation. Last yr this also happened to me, for 2 weeks i was in bed, lost 7 pounds and i wasnt really eating.

but now I'm better. thanks for the replies.




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If I'm feeling really down, I may not oversleep, but I do tend to hide in my bed for as long as possible in the mornings, rather than having to face the world straight away. Funny thing is, I know once I'm up, showered, dressed and have had something for breakfast and taken my meds, I'm going to feel better... it's just making that first move towards leaving the comfort of bed that is the hardest.



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Its a habit for me, I need to break.
The quality suffers.

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I agree that sleeping is a coping mechanism--but it's also and avoidance mechanism. While in depression it is safest to sleep until one is ready and feeling well enough to face the world and/or deal with what they may be going through. As long as you sleeping or for that matter, laying in bed, on the coach, or vegetating in front of the TV or computer, you can avoid facing the issues. Depression can also cause insomnia-which often occurs in my case.

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Constantly want to oversleep can be related to depression, but it can also be related to other things.

Many years ago when I was still a teenager, there was a stage where during the week-end all I seemed to do was sleep and wake for the loo, and get woken for a meal. It turned out I was horribly anemic and required medical intervention.

I notice that you belong to a Low-Carb team. I tried having a peek at your nutrition but you don't really use it. Do you keep track elsewhere? It is possible that you are not eating enough carbs (quality whole-grains and veges, as opposed to processed stuff), or lean protein, or even fat.

Are you eating enough calories?

Is your breathing technique good? This means NOT breathing from your chest. If you put your hand on your chest and one on your belly with the palm onto your lower ribs, is your lower hand going in/out when you breathe? THIS is how it should be to ensure that your body/brain is being properly oxygenated. It is your upper hand moving then your breathing technique could be partly to blame.

Are you on medications? If so, they MAY need reviewing.

There are many other reasons for the sleepiness, too, so rather than second-guess the reason, I think you are best to make an appointment with your Dr and have a thorough medical, including bloods, to see if there is something going on that can be relatively easily remedied.

Good luck, and keep in touch .... let us know how you are getting on.

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I also oversleep when I am depressed. Sometimes it takes me a long time to go to sleep because I have so many things running through my mind, but once I am asleep it feels like I could sleep around the clock. More hours of daylight and warmer weather helps me get more active and reduce the number of hours I sleep. Tracking sleep on SparkPeople keeps me mindful of the need to not oversleep. Give it a try.

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Laurance, you have a wonderful sense of humor. I love "there's a nap for that." As for sleep, fatigue often goes along with depression. It can be a huge factor in depression and depressive episodes. It can be a form of escape and can be used as avoidance when we are really down. I am the opposite of you. I find it very hard to sleep at all, but that may have something to do with my bipolarness, anxiety and the fact that I am very high energy despite my meds. I hope that as the weather improves and Spring really starts to blossom you will engage in activities other than sleep that you enjoy. Sending you positive energy and hugs. Take care and God bless, Deb emoticon

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For me, sleep is an escape. For a while I'm not dealing with problems and depression and the misery that comes from having rather disabling ADD/ADHD.

I welcome bedtime.
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And I love my Power Naps. I tend to nap from 15 minutes to a half hour. Being depressed and having the ADD/ADHD is tiring and enervating. My brain doesn't work.

But a Power Nap helps me cope. It's kind of like rebooting a jammed-up computer. I say, "I gotta go and reboot my brain. I can't think."

My daughter gave me a funny T-shirt. It says,
"I TIRED.
There's a nap for that.

I'm not into smartphones and apps and all that, but I appreciate and understand the humor. It says it all for me. I am losing weight now, and before long I should fit into that shirt!

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Sleeping is a coping mechanism. We don't have to deal with our depression and all the yucky stuff when we are asleep.

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When you are depressed do you over sleep? I am trying to find why im like this but i cant seem to find an explanation on the net.

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