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    Just thinking of you & checking on you Pat. How are you? Are you still on SP? Did you have WLS? Wishing you well! Carol
    3252 days ago
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    3458 days ago
    I saw condolences to Naomi on someone's page. I wondered if Josh had passed. So very sad, after their "victorious" brain surgery on him, etc. I wish her well. She, and many other leaders, also quit that team. Do you have more info on what happened to Josh (other than he died)? Naomi wasn't receiving SPMail after she quit, and, I am not suprised she's taking a break from SP.
    3481 days ago
    I would love, love, love to be in your kitchen at harvest. What a treat it would be to learn from you! I would be a very willing apprentice. Cheap labor, LOL. Wish we were closer.

    There are a bunch of weight loss surgery (WLS) and g.bypass, sleeve, band, etc., SP teams. Try some of those! Only join teams that will support you. If they are judgemental, how is that any help to you?! We already have enough judgement because of our size and "optional" or "lifestyle" health issues. Plus our own consciences. So forgive yourself, love on yourself, and join teams that will love and support you right now. Every ounce, and every bad habit, right where you're at right now.

    I feel like you do about WLS. I don't think it solves the root cause / root issue, for me, personally. If I remember correctly you had some serious, life-threatening health issues (and I don't know what's currently going on with you since then). Docs call those co-morbid conditions. So maybe they are trying to save your life. For some people, they do the failed diet dance right into the grave. While docs watch them. Maybe your docs don't want to watch you do the same. Also lifestyle changes like learning and PRACTICING stress management and anger management and negativity management, actually taking the classes and going, are mandatory, not optional. Ask your docs for a 3-month health improvement trial / goals (or 6 or 9, etc) for you to do it without surgery, but NOT doing it on your own: with SP's help, and join a gym, rehab, or Y, and with their help like every 2 weeks a consult with a nurse practioner and once-a-month consult with all 3 of them together in one room, a team meeting, etc. (If they're not willing to be "on your team" you might have to assemble a new team.) Make it clear you need all them to coach you and help you along the way and SPEND OFFICE TIME with you, regularly and repeatedly, in a supportive environment. NOT doing it on your own; definitely a team effort. Sometimes insurance pays if they PRESCRIBE a gym membership & personal trainer for you, etc. Many rehab centers and sports medicine docs now do this for people our age (instead of a typical gym setting full of young healthy people). The docs can make a specific list of targets for you to shoot for and show improvement at the 3 month mark, like:

    rate of resting metabolism
    triglycerides improved
    LDL improved
    stress improved
    steps recorded daily on pedometer and on journal
    lbs lost
    lbs you're able to lift
    core strength improvement
    stabilized or reduced meds after 3 or 6 mos, etc

    Would you be willing to do that for 3 months, and prove to them you can improve your physical health, without surgery? Some of the above suggestions may not apply to your personal sitch, of course. I am speaking of doing the things you COULD do, and that DO apply. They are just a few examples of specific, measurable things that they could test you with in 3 months, or test you with in 6 months, etc. And they would have their own list that would apply to you (they would let you know what their list is, of course). They would need to test you at the beginning & end of the trial months (3, 6, 9, etc.).

    It would be your new job. It would take alot of effort. Many of us myself included squander our SP time; but if we were deadly serious about our SparkJourney we could kick some serious butt. (Namely, our own butts.)

    If you're not up for it, OR, if you try and fail the 3 mo or 6 mo test, then I think you have to take other actions. You have to join them, join your docs, in an all-out effort to save your own life. Even if that means WLS.

    Whatever you do, get a pedometer and join a step team right away, regardless of with or without WLS, pedometers don't lie and they give you non-judgemental but accurate feedback. People including myself find out very quickly, we are much less active than we thought we were.

    Sedentary...............less than 5,000 steps/day
    Low Active..............5,000-7,499 steps/day
    Somewhat Active....7,500-9,999 steps/day
    Active....................10,000-12,500 steps/day
    Highly Active...... ...12,501+ steps/day
    Old Order Amish women with very low, 4% obesity:
    ..............................14,000+ steps per day

    There are about a million step teams on SP.

    Read Mike's SP article, "Secrets of the 5%". Your docs know all about the 95% who don't make it; and, they don't want you to be one of the 95ers. Yes it can be done w/o WLS, but, you'll have to PROVE it to them & yourself, that you can.

    And yes; you really can. But like I said, it would take much effort and much time, and turn your life upside down, like going to a new job. No matter what, you have to get up and go every day. To the new job. You have to put yourself first. And do yucky stuff like sweat buckets. Sweat & repeat. Hard work. Dedication. Workouts coome first. Walking comes first. Etc.

    Just hit the delete button if I'm meddling, and, I don't mean any offense.
    3481 days ago
    Thanks Pat! So glad you are back. Yep, too bad about that team. I could gossip, but I won't!
    3482 days ago
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