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Not KETOing!

Wednesday, August 20, 2014

I was living under the illusion that I was in Ketosis.
Was way, way off!
Still a little confused about how to eat high fat, low carb/protein & eat vegetables.

I am trying not to beat myself up, shift & get on with it!
Am working on it. Just have to figure out how to do the balancing act.

I am tempted to eat nothing but cream cheese, KETO coffee and some romaine lettuce.

Do I sound frustrated? That is because I am a work in process.
I will not give in.
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  • GUNNSGIRL91303
    My apologies veg, I did not mean to write ketacidosis, that was a mistake on my part.

    Ketosis and ketoacidosis are different and I did not mean to open a big can of worms by writing the wrong word. Many people love the diets that produce ketosis but it can be dangerous when prolonged and I only meant to caution you because I care about you. I have seen a lot of resulting medical problems with ketosis in 24 years in healthcare.

    To each their own and if it works for you emoticon
    2496 days ago
  • WOUBBIE
    I want to clarify a comment from below about the difference between ketosis - which is benign - and ketoacidosis - which is a very different thing.

    Ketosis is not the same as ketoacidosis, a state which can only affect Type 1 diabetics, end-stage Type 2's, and occasionally occurs from extreme intoxication.

    ~Benign dietary ketosis is a controlled, insulin regulated process which results in a mild release of fatty acids and ketone body production in response to low carbohydrate intake, and higher fat consumption.

    ~Ketoacidosis is a condition in which abnormal quantities of ketones are produced in an unregulated biochemical situation. In order to reach a state of ketoacidosis, the body has to be in a state of not producing enough insulin to regulate the flow of fatty acids and the creation of ketone bodies.

    During the usual overnight fast the body's metabolism naturally switches into ketosis, and will switch back to glycolysis after a carbohydrate-rich meal in the morning.
    2496 days ago
  • no profile photo CD14429867
    If you are ketoing from the Book Keto Clarity, your Pie Chart should look like the following:

    5% = CARBS

    75-80% = FAT

    15-20% = PROTEIN emoticon
    2496 days ago
  • no profile photo CD13928790
    It took me about 7 months to get it together. And ketosis has never been my friend. :o(
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    2496 days ago
  • KERRYG155
    And I thought my old diet was strict! I'm sure I could never handle it. Hope you can figure it out without beating yourself up too badly!
    2496 days ago
  • _RAMONA
    I just quickly looked up the parameters of achieving ketosis (from Paleo Leap):

    • Restrict protein to about 15% of calories, and carbs to about 5%... to eat for ketosis you need to cut out all starchy veggies, all fruit, and you won't be eating your 5-11 servings of freggies for sure.

    • Eat plenty of ketogenic fats, like coconut oil.

    Give that a try and see how it goes!

    For anyone else wondering, ketoacidosis and nutritional ketosis are not the same thing.

    Ketosis is a metabolic state in which your body runs on fat (ketones) instead of carbs.
    The brain does need some carbohydrates, but you can manufacture these from
    ketones; you don’t need to get them in the diet. It’s usually recommended for rapid
    weight loss and as a therapeutic diet for certain diseases.

    Nutritional ketosis is not the same as ketoacidosis, a life-threatening complication of diabetes when your body produces high levels of blood acids called ketones.

    Diabetic ketoacidosis develops when your body is unable to produce enough insulin. Insulin normally plays a key role in helping sugar (glucose) — a major source of energy for your muscles and other tissues — enter your cells. Without enough insulin, your body begins to break down fat as an alternate fuel. This process produces a buildup of toxic acids in the bloodstream called ketones, eventually leading to diabetic ketoacidosis if untreated.


    We're all a work in progress... mistakes are part of the journey.

    So, do you mind sharing what you hope to achieve by ketosis? I ask because I've dabbled with IFing, and have wondered if I should try ketosis to facilitate weight loss, as well as address other health concerns.





    2496 days ago

    Comment edited on: 8/20/2014 7:31:19 PM
  • no profile photo CD12024980
    A bit more information on your dietary choice. I was could never give up carbs so not keto for me.

    Have a great day
    2496 days ago
  • MORTICIAADDAMS
    Most people who attain ketosis have to be under 30gms of carbs a day. There are a few individuals who can do more. On diets like Atkins you can have 3 cups of salad veggies a day or 2 cups of salad veggies and one cup of a list of other veggies that are a little higher in carbs than the salad veggies. No starches.

    Low carb is in general higher fat and moderate protein. If you cut back on carbs these numbers naturally go up.
    2496 days ago
  • MISSM66
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    2496 days ago
  • LINDAKAY228
    We are all a work in progress and you are definitely not alone! But you will get through this and come out on the other side having learned things and always a better person! Just one day at a time!
    2496 days ago
  • GUNNSGIRL91303
    In the medical field we consider people in ketosis to be in crisis. This is not a healthy condition. I hope you are being careful. I know this diet works well for people but there are long-term consequences for many.

    Please know I am NOT food shaming or criticizing your diet and goals. I am just cautioning you because I have seen many people medically ill from these types of diets. On the up side, I've seen people lose weight from these diets too. Just be careful and aware of your own body and any changes. emoticon emoticon I just care about you!

    Take care and keep on working at your goals. You are doing GREAT!
    2496 days ago

    Comment edited on: 8/21/2014 12:36:56 AM
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