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I totally feel your pain. I have my own doctor horror stories, mostly about my blood sugar/diabetes and cholesterol issues. I know the feeling of being judged, dismissed, and pretty much accused of being a liar.

Like with the blood sugar thing, even since my early-20s when I was thin as a rail, I was spilling sugar in my urine at pre-natal visits and I was always told to "stop eating so much sugar." I've never had a sweet tooth, and have never eaten much sugar, but they dismissed me when I told them that. As the years went by, I'd show up high FBG, and get the same lecture about not eating sugar, give the same explanation that I don't eat much sugar, and get the same "clearly, you're lying" eye roll in response.

Finally, the day came when a doctor told me I have Type 2 diabetes along with high cholesterol. "This is a lifestyle disease," she told me, self-righteously. "You need to lay off the sweets and get some exercise." When I told her I DON'T eat sweets and I DO exercise, she snipped back, "Well whatever you're doing, it clearly isn't good enough." (I fired her @$$ and now see a different physician!)

So gosh, yes, I get it! Maybe firing your physician isn't an alternative for you, but you certainly have every right to speak up for yourself and let her know that you DO take your health seriously, and that you DO take measures to control your weight. Don't let her come back at you like mine did telling me, "whatever you're doing isn't good enough." I wish I had stood up for myself when she said that to me, but I was taken aback at the time. I'll never let any other physician say that to me, though.





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I think in the end weight loss comes down to what one does for themselves.

One has to decide that you are going to change something. Others may be callus, or negative, and that may bother one. Whether they are trying to help by being positive, or the opposite, ... or perhaps not trying to actually help at all.

One may have tried different things, and somehow feel like nothing can help loose weight. For myself what really helps is cutting the carbs (I'm a Keto guy). I find cutting carbs has really cut my hunger. Its not that I don't eat to try to loose weight, I just eat differently than before. Breakfast is eggs with cheese in an omelette. No orange juice (sugar, a carb), no toast (half the weight of bread is carbs). No sugar in my coffee. I have coffee with heavy cream, and a tiny bit of stevia.

That breakfast has probably 4 or 5 grams of carbs. 1 from the two eggs, maybe another 1 or 2 from the cheese in the omelette, and another 2 from the cream in my coffee. The rest of the day is similar. Some sort of meat for supper (no breading, no sweet sauce on it) and a salad, and dressing chosen to be low carb, like Ranch dressing.

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My issue with the doctor was how callous she was. I understand that she was trying to be “helpful”, but it is not very helpful when you are lying on the table for her to listen to your heart and she jabs her finger into your belly several times and says “what are you going to do about this?”. When I did lose weight, she didn’t even acknowledge it. Also, I have never heard of a doctor telling someone to skip meals altogether, that doesn’t seem healthy. My thing is (and I think that all of us who struggle will agree), if I had been underweight and started losing weight every year, but told her that I was following all of the advice, getting more calories and protein, and was even less physically active but I was still losing weight, she would have jumped right in with all kinds of tests to see what was causing it. Overweight people rarely get that consideration. Yes, only a small percentage will actually have something wrong, but how will they ever find out if we are automatically dismissed as lazy, stupid, and lying about what/how much they eat or exercise? I had to figure out on my own that I had PCOS which causes insulin resistance and weight gain, and makes it much harder to lose weight. I had to ask for certain tests that actually confirmed it.

@HOWBOUTTHISNAME, your response was not that harsh, you were being frank, and you added some good ideas, which softened that. I have gone to a lot of threads on a lot of the board options, and there are one or two people who seem to go on all of them and just dive right into "educating" (berating) the poster, never posting anything helpful or supportive and it seems like all they are doing is “trolling” the boards, and that is what I was referring to. I didn’t want the original poster to get discouraged by those small few when there are so many wonderful, helpful people (including you) who are here to help, like all of the ones that have responded to her so far.




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Given your Dr doesn't seem prepared to help, I strongly urge you to ask for a referral to a Registered Dietitian. From now, I would be inclined to weigh all of your food and enter it into the Nutrition Tracker. Start off the first week or 2 exactly as you would normally eat (no cheating and leaving things off) and then start to make gradual tweaks .... reduce soda/juice and increase water; add an extra piece of fruit/vege to your day and reduce cake, ice-cream, sweets, etc. At the same time gradually increase your exercise - intensity and duration. When you go to your appointment, print out all your nutrition tracker pages and take them with you. This will save the REGISTERED Dietitian HEAPS of time in helping identify the problem and to give you good suggestions to help you further. You never know, you may already have even started to lose weight by then :-)

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If you are referring to my response, I don't think it is harsh, it is just truthful (well, okay, the truth is harsh sometimes.) Eating better and exercising more IS the best and healthiest way to control your weight. The doctor is just saying what's true.

However, that doesn't mean doctors' comments aren't rude or dismissive sometimes because they certainly can be. Your doctor was trying to offer "helpful" suggestions about skipping lunch and walking longer during your lunch break, but it came across as condescending and judgmental. (I've had doctors offer me "helpful" advice to "not eat so much sugar" when my FBG comes back high - and guess what, I don't eat ANY sugar! But they never believe me, so I get it.)

You don't have to defend your lifestyle and how hard it is to fit exercise into your schedule - it is clearly very difficult to carve out that time. I am currently an empty-nester and "retired" (for now, anyway) so I have plenty of free time, and I still find it very time consuming to do the recommended amounts of exercise. I've often wondered how people with long working hours, commutes, and children at home find time (or even the energy) to do it.

But really, the higher percentage of weight loss comes from diet, not exercise. And if you are really consuming only 1000-1200 calories a day and not losing any weight (exercise or no exercise) then something is going on that needs to be addressed. It is impossible to NOT lose weight if you consume less calories than your body needs. If your body is only maintaining its weight on such a low calorie regimen, there has to be some reason your BMR is so low. (I'd think the only way your BMR could normally be that low would be if you are very short, very lightweight, and very elderly, which I assume you're not.) If your doctor won't listen, then talk to another doctor in the practice. Don't just TELL them you "aren't eating that much" but take a log of your actual food intake and SHOW them. Doctors tend to assume we lie about our lifestyles, but you have to press the issue here to find out what is really going on.

While the advice to "eat less and exercise more," sounds simplistic - and we often resent our doctors for saying it - it really is the best advice. However, just because it's SIMPLE doesn't mean it's EASY, and for some people it is even harder than for others. But there is no point in shooting the messenger just because you don't like the message.



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I know exactly how you feel. It is easy to say “eat better and exercise more” when they are not walking in your shoes.

I stopped seeing one of my doctors because, after several years of always having gained weight each year when I saw her, and having her berate me for it, I had finally lost 10 pounds, and I was so proud of that accomplishment. She did not even acknowledge the loss. Instead, she still berated me for my weight, told me that I should have been pacing in the exam room instead of sitting while I waited for her to come in, and even suggested that I skip lunch altogether and walk the entire 45 minutes instead of the 20-25 that I had been walking. Even when I told her that I was walking more and eating a lot less and very carefully, but my weight was still going up, her response was to brush me off and say that I must be eating more than I think I am (I had started here on SparkPeople and was logging everything, so I KNOW I was eating far less calories). I left defeated and in tears. Like you, she made me feel like she thought that being overweight was part of a “triad” syndrome that consisted of lazy, stupid, and fat, and I was overweight because I was lazy and stupid.

I have a sedentary job and an extremely long commute that has me getting up at 5:00am for work and not getting home until almost 7:00pm, then I end up trying to eat something healthy that is also quick, but still am going to bed less than an hour after I finish eating. A few years ago, I was practically killing myself trying to follow that blanket, standard, knee-jerk advice of eat better and exercise more. I was getting to work 30 minutes early and walking the parking lot before I went in to work (sweaty and smelly), walking 25 of the 45 minutes I had for lunch and then choking down my lunch before time to go back, rushing home (getting there about 20 minutes earlier than I get home now) to get on the treadmill for another 45 minutes to an hour, all to get only 10,000 steps in. Fortunately, my son was in college and got home earlier, and he was wonderful about fixing dinner while I was on the treadmill. I was also pretty much living on chicken and steamed cabbage, carrots, broccoli, and cauliflower. I was MISERABLE, and it still took me over 9 months to lose 20 pounds. Needless to say, I couldn’t maintain that life and I gained it all back.

Now, traffic has gotten worse and my schedule has changed, and I have to report 30 minutes earlier so the 30 minute walking before work has come to an end (it is pitch dark when I get to work in the winter and the parking deck feels too sketchy when it is that dark, so I don’t want to come in any earlier), and I am getting home even later. I am sneaking out from the office several times a day to walk laps around the building, and struggling to get my steps in (I have increased my goal to 12,000 a day), and on Saturdays I get up early and go to the park to walk for 2 hours/13,000 steps/5 miles before I start my day. I have no time for anything but walking and working. I have even pretty much given up my one pleasure of crocheting because there is no time for it. I have also restricted my calories to 1,000-1,200 daily. I started April 5, and I have not lost any appreciable weight in two months, maybe 1 pound. It is frustrating and depressing. Still, I keep going, hoping that at some time a switch will flip and it will start working. That’s all any of us can do.

Stay on here and keep trying. While there are one or two whose responses can be rather harsh and give you pause, for the most part everyone is very kind, caring, and helpful. Ignore the former and concentrate on the latter, and you will get what you need to hang in there. Never forget that you are worth the effort.




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I find that there is so much motivation here from my Spark friends. Make sure that you are active in Sparks. Search the teams that interest you and stick with the one where you feel most at home. Find the Spark friends that will give you the support and understanding you need on your Spark journey.

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Bring every negative thought around to a positive. Stay Consistent. Take it one-day-at-a time.

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5/26/19 11:54 A

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" all doctors continue to give me the same answer..."you need to eat better and exercise more" "

Well, of course they say that... it is how anyone loses weight and stays healthy!
Please read the great advice posted below... and check back in here.
I see you posted once then ghosted on the replies....

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Well, here's the truth about losing weight and becoming healthier - it is just what your doctor said: Eat better, and exercise more.

What did you want your doctor to say? He/she is only telling you what works, and it isn't the "easy" answer you hoped for. I realize that every overweight person secretly hopes that the doctor will say, "Oh, your thyroid is out of whack, here is some medication and now you can watch the pounds drop off with no effort whatsoever." Possibly for a very few people that might be the case, but realistically it is NOT the case for most of us. And even if it was, you'd still have to eat better and exercise more to be in good health and maintain a healthy weight - you can't get around that, the truth is that this is the only way to accomplish weight loss in a healthy way that is within your control.

Depression might be a game changer, since it is difficult to feel motivated to make the effort when you're depressed. If your depression is severe and chronic, I hope you will seek treatment for that first of all, because that is the more immediate problem than your weight. If your depression is mild and manageable, you might consider that exercise can relieve it to some extent. Yes, I know it is hard to put forth the effort when you don't feel like it, but that is where you need to just DO IT ANYWAY, and know that the endorphins will give you a burst of positive energy. And the more you do it, the better you will feel! It doesn't have to be extreme, gut-busting exercise, but just a nice brisk walk on a beautiful Spring day. Get the blood pumping, breathe deeply in the fresh air, and let the oxygen get to your brain. Don't worry about how much weight you're trying to lose, just concentrate on that one moment when you're moving with purpose and feeling what your body can do.

(This worked for me during a bout of the worst depression of my life, so I can tell you it really does work. But again, please seek medical attention if your depression is severe and debilitating. Don't wait, do it now.)

Just remember, that YOUR health and wellbeing is within YOUR control. A doctor can give you advice, we can give you advice, support and encouragement, but only YOU can do it. And you can!


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Lots of great advice was already given. I just want to say that being depressed makes it harder, but not impossible. Read all the inspirational messages. They brighten my day and I came here depressed. The inspirational stories too. Talk to yourself in a positive way. Look into the mirror and tell yourself you can do this. When you feel the urge to grab food for comfort try waiting 15 to 20 min and ask yourself why you want to eat. Are you really hungry ? Try to drink something first because many times we are thirsty and it feels like hunger. Know that you are not alone in this struggle and many have been where you are right now and come out winners. You will be a winner too. Believe in yourself and MAKE IT HAPPEN.

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Hello, and welcome to Spark!

I agree with what some the other folks have said. Start slow. Create new habits. Spark is a great tool for tracking your habits, so pick something doable, and get started.

Click on My Trackers at the top of the page, and select "Other Goals". Then add 3 Fast Break goals. Log on every day, to keep yourself on track.

(It's been a long time since I did this, so if there is a new way to do this, maybe somebody will post it.)

Post here and let us know what you decide.

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KMG24753,

Welcome to Spark People !

I give all new members one piece of advice and it's this,"don't look at good health or weight loss with an all or nothing mentality". if the only healthy thing you did for yourself today was drink 8 glasses of water, that's still a step in the right direction.

I know it can be difficult struggling with health issues and finding a correct diagnosis isn't easy, even for doctors. Why do they always say that a person should lose weight ? The honest answer is that many health related issues can be resolved by losing weight. Being overweight places an enormous strain on a person's body. So, the first thing a person could do to help resolve any health issues would be to lose weight.

If the person loses weight and that doesn't seem to help, then the doctor needs to check on other possible causes.

If you read the posts in the forums, you will see that many members were able to go off their blood pressure meds, diabetes meds, cholesterol meds, etc... just because they lost weight and started eating better.

What to do ? Start slowly. Don't try to do everything at once or you will end up frustrated. Just start with a few simple changes you CAN stick to. Example, if you're not eating 6-9 servings of fresh fruit and veggies, set a goal to eat 2-3 servings each day for one week. if you're not drinking 8 glasses of water, set a goal to drink 2-4 glasses each day for one week. if you're not exercising, don't start with an hour a day, set a goal to take a 30 minute walk each day for one week. Once you've completed these goals, you do them again or create new ones.

Can you take a 30 minute walk ?
Can you drink 2-4 glasses of water ?
Can you eat 2-3 servings of fruit/veggies ?

If so, then you have started your journey towards a healthier YOU.




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Hi there...you're in good company with a lot of folks who were once new and struggling to find their path.

For me, the most positive step in my weight loss journey was finding SparkPeople. I started right away with the SparkPeople 28-day-program. You can access this by clicking that title on the Learn drop-down menu accessible at the top of this website. While you're following the program, read some of the SparkStories. They're so inspirational.

One thing that has really helped me was to realize that my weight problem didn't happen overnight and that it likely wouldn't get resolved overnight either. Every effort I put into developing a healthier lifestyle is worth it because I'm worth it...and you are worth it, too! We deserve a better life, a healthier life and a more productive life and we can do this! There is so much support here.

So, welcome to the journey. Educate yourself, develop your own unique short term and long term goals and set your own best plan in motion to reach them all, one day at a time, one step at a time. We've got your back. Get Sparking, friend. You'll be feeling so much better.

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My weight has been increasing for the past 3 years, I've been having health issues that I believe are contributing to my weight gain but all doctors continue to give me the same answer..."you need to eat better and exercise more"

It's so disappointing and discouraging, makes me feel so lazy and irresponsible. As my weight went up again this week, I'm joining Spark People and looking for some support and direction. I'm feeling depressed...it's hard not to.

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