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4/16/15 11:31 P

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Hi Indy!
I hear ya loud and clear!
Several years ago, I had my TSI antibodies (Markers for Graves, the autoimmune hyperthyroid condition) and discovered that I had elevated TSI antibodies. Only a couple of points away from being a Graves patient. Yet I still was required to take thyroid hormone, bc my TSH was too high and T4, T3 were too low without it... officially I was Hypothyroid even with TSI antibodies.

Our bodies are such a miracle, it's a wonder that more doesn't go wrong...

Have a great weekend, hope you are getting some of this lovely spring weather!

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Thank you for the responses they really answer so much and thank you Mzzchief for all the information it is so much to take in but really makes sense. It just really threw me for a loop being just diagnosed this way it seems wierd and scary to have alot of the symptoms of hyperthyroid. I am trying not to worry of stress out about it either I just don't want to mess up anything with my thyroid or make it worst so its a little scary



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HI Indy!

Not everyone does go from hypo to hyper.
Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't, sometimes they get transient hyperthyroidism which means it comes around for a couple of months to a year and goes.

The thing to remember about the vast majority of thyroid disease, is that it is a malfunction of the immune system, specifically against our own cells or the substances they make that are essential to the proper function of our body.

In short, we have an Autoimmune Disease the target just happens to be the thyroid gland.

Our treatment never addresses the etiology (cause) of the disease, which is to get our bodies to stop making antibodies against our own tissues and the substances they create.

The current medical model simply treats the symptoms.

In Hypothyroid disease this means giving the patient replacement thyroid hormone.
In Hyperthyroid disease this means giving the patient a medication or RAI (which kills the cells overproducing thyroid hormone), or sometimes even surgery to stop the thyroid from overproducing hormone.

Meanwhile the process... autoimmunity... ie a malfunctioning immune system... is allowed to continue bc science hasn't figured out a way yet, to stop this errant immune process.

Sometimes the hyperthyroidism is transitory, like when a nodule that contains trapped thyroid hormone is dissolving which releases the trapped hormone. In that case, the hyperthyroidism can last for a month or longer, usually no more than a year. That's why I think it may be a good idea to use drugs which deal with a temporary situation, rather than take the more permanent RAI or surgical route.

Another cause of hyperthyroidism is over medication with replacement thyroid hormone. That goes by the fancy smancy name of Iatrogenic Hyperthyroidism! Same goes with over the counter "thyroid helper"pills taken in excess.

The other is Iodine, in whatever form.
Pills, liquid, seaweed in all its forms which can be kelp, laver, wakame, hijiki, laminaria... you get the point! These should all be avoided except in doses just adequate to service tissues other than the thyroid.

In any case, getting back to your original question... once your immune system runs amok, the tendency is that it stays that way... which means with time, things generally get worse rather than better. Sometimes the process changes its focus, which in the case of thyroid disease, ups the ante and goes into Graves (autoimmune hyperthyroidism), which means that TSI autoantibodies are produced in addition the autoantibodies of Hashi's (anti-TGab, anti-TPO).

Othertimes your body attacks another system like your adrenals(Cushings, Addisons) or pancreas(diabetes 1), or does something systemic like lupus or multi organ like Sjorgen's and Sarcoidosis.

There's other forms of hyperthyroidism, one that comes to mind is Toxic Goiter, which means that the body, in the complete absence of autoimmune antibodies, just starts growing the thyroid out of the blue. All those new thyroid cells start pumping out thyroid hormone and before you know it, you're hyperthyroid.

Hope this makes a bit more sense, now.
I know this is a long post, but there's a lot to cover.
If you still have questions, please ask!

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I think it may have to do with your meds. I would talk to your doctor and if the doctor does not have a good answer ask whom you can find out from.

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U am always slow

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Just trying to understand this: how does a person go from hypothyroidism to hyperthyroidism it doesn't make any sense.



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