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9/21/19 2:21 P

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Rusty you have to unlearn most of the misinformation we were given our whole lives. I will tell you that while its ok to eat more, capping at 2500 cals is what most of the experts suggest. so dont feel you MUST go to 2800.
calorie deficits are what ruined our metabolisms. some people, when starting to eat at TDEE, will gain a little, but if following the recommended under 20 g total carbs, 50-60 g protein and the rest from fat, will even out in a few weeks then start losing. Those of us that did decades of calorie deficit high carb low fat diets lose slower, but once i shifted my mind into the fact that i was healing all the damage i did all those years it was easier to accept.

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9/21/19 10:58 A

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I am finding much of what you say to be true. I walk 4-5 days a week for 30 minutes.. so 5-6 miles. I walk slow.. about 2.5 m.p.h. I don't feel any desire to lift weights yet, and when I tried, it left me exhausted.

I struggle to get to 2000 calories a day, but my TDEE is 2808. That seems extreme..lol Of course, I am at 4 weeks today, and down 22.6 lbs., so I am probably losing weight due to a big caloric deficit. I know that when I ate 1600 calories for a few days, I actually stalled. I want to try eating 2400, and see if it helps with weight loss, but I simply can't seem to force myself to eat much more than 2000 calories a day, which is working well, but an 800 calorie deficit sound bad to me.. although it is shrinking as I lose weight, right? Maybe my weight will eventually match my calories..lol

I like that posts here are making me look at things from a different perspective. I have done forms of low carb for years, and got macros in line, but is the idea of lower calories to lose weight, lingering in my subconscious? I think eating very low carb, has led to no hunger/cravings, and that may be true, which makes me not want to eat, so I set times to eat, and do so... but when I do eat, I have no problem eating everything, once I start.. would 200 more calories per meal be so hard to consume? Would it be healthier?

I think a lifetime of ideas, are hard to overcome, and allow change. I WANT to exercise more, as well, because that leads to weight loss according to what we were taught for decades, but I lose fine without it. I walk along the river, because it is beautiful, and calms me down..lol. I like it.. I watch the ducks/geese, before turning around, and going home.. probably has some benefits, but not weight loss.

Seems as if I am still learning to undo decades of beliefs.. thanks for the post James.

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9/9/19 5:02 P

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Well said James!

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I balance my carbs, and my calories, and walk 3 miles a day. I don't seem to be having any problems one way or the other. It all goes hand in hand, there is literally no miracles in weight loss. It's all depending on your own body type. I've always been told you "Cannot turn a Boston Bull into a Whippet!" So many try to look like the models in magazines. I feel it's all about health and living longer because you care about you. Be happy if your healthy. I love Keto. The real truth is just giving up all the "bad" foods that cost you. My Doctor straight out the gate, said give up all "white" foods. I did. And I'm in better health. I try a lot of new keto recipes, and can't wait until Winter to try some of the soups I found on PINTEREST.

Getting and staying healthy is not an option, it's a lifestyle.

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9/9/19 4:34 P

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I hope I'm not repeating myself ... but even if I am, ... so what?

A lot of folks look at eating Keto as a way to loose body fat, and most typically it is.

Without Keto, people look at weight loss as eating fewer calories, and exercising to burn more calories, and that combination will help them loose weight (body fat) faster.

First of all, my opinion on exercising is that it is probably a great way to stay fit, and flexible, but doesn't burn off pounds of body fat, no matter what exercise you choose. If you run one hour a day, and that is a lot, that will burn about 500 calories in that hour. 3500 for the whole week, and if a pound of body fat holds 3500 calories, that means a ONE POUND fat loss, for running ONE HOUR EVERY DAY INCLUDING WEEKENDS.

Secondly, if you are just starting Keto, like in the first 3 weeks to a month, your body has been denied carbs, and is turning towards burning fat for calories, but it does so inefficiently. This means two things, first body fat loss will initially be rapid, but secondly since you can't efficiently extract calories from fat, strenuous exercise will be hard. You will feel weak, or light headed, you just can't get at the calories in fat efficiently enough, ... later yes, initially no. I think its the idea that a gram of carbs is 4 calories, a gram of protein is 4, and a gram of fat is 9, and that it the total number of calories that matters ... the calorie source matters more than one thinks.

Lastly what about cutting calories ultra low to speed weight loss. Again probably wrong. the body can go into "starvation" mode. Some think this is a myth. I think however the body changes its efficiency when faced with very few calories. You are more lethargic, I think your blood flow changes to loose less body heat, all in all I'd not go below 1800 a day for anyone. I don't think less speeds weight loss, it may in fact be very detrimental to weight loss, especially long term.


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